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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 12 Oct 22 4.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I've got to say that West or Ye or whatever it is just comes across as refreshing.

When I was growing up this kind of guy was what society would refer to as an eccentric. Nowadays the kind of people who run the establishment refer to them as using 'hate speech' and being 'dangerous' and they do all they can to close them down and cancel them.

We see that having criticism for anything that the establishment supports or believes is right must be protrayed as 'hate' and 'dangerous'.....Errrr...No, in the vast majority of cases that's a lie....They just don't agree with how you think society should be....back when I was growing up anti establishment stuff and the stuff West says was much easier to say and there was far less control....You know, freedom...something the west was meant to be about.

I regard some of what West thinks as fantasy, some as half truth and some as reasonably accurate....I won't say which is which but I suppose my point is....what kind of society thinks it's ok to demonise and cancel a person for their political beliefs.

Thankfully West has 'F you' money and can't be bullied nor shut down very easily. As the old saying goes, 'if you want to know who controls you, look at who you can't criticise'. It's a sad reflection of our times that this is still very much the case.

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've got to say that West or Ye or whatever it is just comes across as refreshing.

When I was growing up this kind of guy was what society would refer to as an eccentric. Nowadays the kind of people who run the establishment refer to them as using 'hate speech' and being 'dangerous' and they do all they can to close them down and cancel them.

We see that having criticism for anything that the establishment supports or believes is right must be protrayed as 'hate' and 'dangerous'.....Errrr...No, in the vast majority of cases that's a lie....They just don't agree with how you think society should be....back when I was growing up anti establishment stuff and the stuff West says was much easier to say and there was far less control....You know, freedom...something the west was meant to be about.

I regard some of what West thinks as fantasy, some as half truth and some as reasonably accurate....I won't say which is which but I suppose my point is....what kind of society thinks it's ok to demonise and cancel a person for their political beliefs.

Thankfully West has 'F you' money and can't be bullied nor shut down very easily. As the old saying goes, 'if you want to know who controls you, look at who you can't criticise'. It's a sad reflection of our times that this is still very much the case.

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I think cancel culture is doing serious damage to free-speech, where it is simply called hate-speak. To air an opinion that deviates from 'the accepted norm' can now be deemed illegal.

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"Police have faced significant criticism over their handling of anti-monarchist protests in the events following the death of the Queen. Edinburgh had three arrests, with a fourth occurring in Oxford, while Parliament seeing police confronting Paul Powlesland for holding a blank sheet of paper.

Powlesland, a barrister with Garden Court Chambers, whose confrontation with police was posted on twitter, commented in an interview that ‘freedom of expression and believe it’s one of our most precious rights… it’s in these moments of dare I say national consensus where that kind of right can slip and be in most danger’.

The Metropolitan Police issued a statement, saying: ‘The public absolutely have a right to protest and we have been making this clear to all officers involved in the extraordinary policing operation.’ Neither Police Scotland nor Thames Valley Police have commented beyond confirming the above arrests.

Criticism has been levelled against the police from several quarters. Liberty, the Human Rights campaign group, said ‘it is very worrying to see the police enforcing their broad powers in such a heavy handed and punitive way to clamp down on free speech and expression… Protest isn’t a gift from the State. It’s a fundamental right.’

The human rights charity JUSTICE, stated: ‘these arrests are unacceptable. The European Convention on Human Rights protects opinions that “offend, shock or disturb the State or any sector of the population”; holding up a blank sign or expressing republican views clearly should not constitute an offence.’

The Secret Barrister, an anonymous criminal lawyer, commented that writing ‘Not My King’ on a sign ‘would not constitute an offence under the Public Order Act, and it is deeply troubling that any police officer would think that it might’." (The Secret Barrister)

And who dictates police policy ? The Government

 


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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

holding up a blank sign or expressing republican views clearly should not constitute an offence.’

True. As long as you can also visit the Greek Republic and express Monarchist views.

'Freedom of Speech' should be sacrosanct

 


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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I think cancel culture is doing serious damage to free-speech, where it is simply called hate-speak. To air an opinion that deviates from 'the accepted norm' can now be deemed illegal.

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"Police have faced significant criticism over their handling of anti-monarchist protests in the events following the death of the Queen. Edinburgh had three arrests, with a fourth occurring in Oxford, while Parliament seeing police confronting Paul Powlesland for holding a blank sheet of paper.

Powlesland, a barrister with Garden Court Chambers, whose confrontation with police was posted on twitter, commented in an interview that ‘freedom of expression and believe it’s one of our most precious rights… it’s in these moments of dare I say national consensus where that kind of right can slip and be in most danger’.

The Metropolitan Police issued a statement, saying: ‘The public absolutely have a right to protest and we have been making this clear to all officers involved in the extraordinary policing operation.’ Neither Police Scotland nor Thames Valley Police have commented beyond confirming the above arrests.

Criticism has been levelled against the police from several quarters. Liberty, the Human Rights campaign group, said ‘it is very worrying to see the police enforcing their broad powers in such a heavy handed and punitive way to clamp down on free speech and expression… Protest isn’t a gift from the State. It’s a fundamental right.’

The human rights charity JUSTICE, stated: ‘these arrests are unacceptable. The European Convention on Human Rights protects opinions that “offend, shock or disturb the State or any sector of the population”; holding up a blank sign or expressing republican views clearly should not constitute an offence.’

The Secret Barrister, an anonymous criminal lawyer, commented that writing ‘Not My King’ on a sign ‘would not constitute an offence under the Public Order Act, and it is deeply troubling that any police officer would think that it might’." (The Secret Barrister)

And who dictates police policy ? The Government

I fully agree, while I wouldn't have supported those protests I think that unless they are violent or causing damage to property it's a part of our freedoms that their protest and voice should be allowed as part of the western identity.

I'm am not happy to hear of the state getting involved outside of violence or damage. However, as you rightly state this has been the direction of travel for some time.....Unless you're BLM of course, in that case you get to chase the Police down the street and write insults on Churchill's statue and try to burn flags at the Cenonaph.....the last one they responsed to but writing on Churchill's statue was property damage and I wouldn't have stood for it.

Protest should be defended...throwing statues in rivers should be punished....but apparently property damage is allowed in parts of the country now if some think the cause is right on.


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Bang-on stirling.
Protesting has to be sanctioned by Government (at local level) for it to be deemed acceptable.
Kayne West gives a satirical edge to his observations and suggestions, but it really is a serious matter, as he must be aware.
Covid Regulations gave Governments the tools and impetus to impose themselves more fully on every aspect of our lives. And it's as though we're sleep-walking into it.
People like Kayne should be applauded for raising the issues, but unfortunately the message is diluted in humour.

 


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More trouble for Mr. West. He's now being sued by George Floyd's family.

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


More trouble for Mr. West. He's now being sued by George Floyd's family.

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Obviously spunked all the police gave them

 

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