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Daddyorc Atlantic Highlands, NJ 17 Oct 22 1.10am
Originally posted by sprites You’re so far off the mark it’s laughable. Luka is technically very good. He’s got the quality on the ball - it’s the physical demands he struggles with nowadays. Gets caught out for pace etc. He played very well when he came on against Leicester. No he didn't. He didn't play awful either. Except when he went to ground on Maddison and let them in. That almost cost us the game.
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Daddyorc

Atlantic Highlands, NJ 17 Oct 22 1.10am

Originally posted by sprites

You’re so far off the mark it’s laughable. Luka is technically very good. He’s got the quality on the ball - it’s the physical demands he struggles with nowadays. Gets caught out for pace etc.

He played very well when he came on against Leicester.

No he didn't. He didn't play awful either. Except when he went to ground on Maddison and let them in. That almost cost us the game.

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viveasheagle perth 17 Oct 22 5.22am
Definitely our worst performance of the season. I thought only Guita Guehi and Anderson played half decent. If our forward players are marked then someone form midfield has to run in behind to make space. This is the sort of game that high lights that we don't have a player with similar attributes to Conor Gallager who did this for us at times last year. I also thought our full backs did not push on enough as they might have if we had conceded a goal. Let's hope there is positive reaction against Wolves as this was not a premier league performance. I think Faes, who has only just started playing for Leicester, looks like he is going to be a good acquisition and has improved them defensively.
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perth 17 Oct 22 5.22am

Definitely our worst performance of the season. I thought only Guita Guehi and Anderson played half decent. If our forward players are marked then someone form midfield has to run in behind to make space. This is the sort of game that high lights that we don't have a player with similar attributes to Conor Gallager who did this for us at times last year. I also thought our full backs did not push on enough as they might have if we had conceded a goal.
Let's hope there is positive reaction against Wolves as this was not a premier league performance.
I think Faes, who has only just started playing for Leicester, looks like he is going to be a good acquisition and has improved them defensively.

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Elpis In a pub 17 Oct 22 6.32am
Originally posted by steeleye20 The MOD pundits described us as 'poor'. And the midfield was dissected unmercifully, 5 players taken out by a pass. So how did we shut out Maddison & Co.? Our defending especially Guita did not give much away, although they really should have scored a couple. Zero goals conceded away from home not to be sneezed at, a very forgettable odd game. It was just a poor game all round with two teams seemingly agreeing a point apiece would be a good day at the office . The MOD pundits described the game as poor rather than just us and thought they should have edged it which was crappo . Every chance they had would have been ruled out by VAR for offside and even the much replayed Barnes run started off with the ball coming off his hand . Decent point yes but dissapointed as they were there for the taking . And we still need a striker
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Elpis

In a pub 17 Oct 22 6.32am

Originally posted by steeleye20

The MOD pundits described us as 'poor'.

And the midfield was dissected unmercifully, 5 players taken out by a pass.

So how did we shut out Maddison & Co.?

Our defending especially Guita did not give much away, although they really should have scored a couple.

Zero goals conceded away from home not to be sneezed at, a very forgettable odd game.

It was just a poor game all round with two teams seemingly agreeing a point apiece would be a good day at the office .

The MOD pundits described the game as poor rather than just us and thought they should have edged it which was crappo . Every chance they had would have been ruled out by VAR for offside and even the much replayed Barnes run started off with the ball coming off his hand .

Decent point yes but dissapointed as they were there for the taking .

And we still need a striker

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Den1923 17 Oct 22 8.00am
Originally posted by ripleyeagle How come teams like Brentford and Brighton seem able to obtain players with better skill levels than ours and are able to sell them on for vast profits.Apart from AWB,who else have we been able to make a profit on recently?The scouting system in this club, I.e Freedman is vastly overrated. These are all very valid points, our recruiting has been poor for sometime now, we do not seem to be able to get transfers over the line and lose out to our competitors Gibbs-White is one example but there have been many others and to be fair to PV he has made it clear what he wanted last T/W but only really got Doucoure so I guess DF has to stand up and be counted as we are weak at getting good value talent unlike the clubs mentioned.
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17 Oct 22 8.00am

Originally posted by ripleyeagle

How come teams like Brentford and Brighton seem able to obtain players with better skill levels than ours and are able to sell them on for vast profits.Apart from AWB,who else have we been able to make a profit on recently?The scouting system in this club, I.e Freedman is vastly overrated.

These are all very valid points, our recruiting has been poor for sometime now, we do not seem to be able to get transfers over the line and lose out to our competitors Gibbs-White is one example but there have been many others and to be fair to PV he has made it clear what he wanted last T/W but only really got Doucoure so I guess DF has to stand up and be counted as we are weak at getting good value talent unlike the clubs mentioned.

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Badger11 Beckenham 17 Oct 22 8.09am
Originally posted by Den1923 These are all very valid points, our recruiting has been poor for sometime now, we do not seem to be able to get transfers over the line and lose out to our competitors Gibbs-White is one example but there have been many others and to be fair to PV he has made it clear what he wanted last T/W but only really got Doucoure so I guess DF has to stand up and be counted as we are weak at getting good value talent unlike the clubs mentioned. I think DF is doing a good job within the financial constraints of the club. We wanted Gibbs White but were not prepared to pay the large transfer fee so even if he is a success at Forest he was not a bargain. One more point
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Beckenham 17 Oct 22 8.09am

Originally posted by Den1923

These are all very valid points, our recruiting has been poor for sometime now, we do not seem to be able to get transfers over the line and lose out to our competitors Gibbs-White is one example but there have been many others and to be fair to PV he has made it clear what he wanted last T/W but only really got Doucoure so I guess DF has to stand up and be counted as we are weak at getting good value talent unlike the clubs mentioned.

I think DF is doing a good job within the financial constraints of the club. We wanted Gibbs White but were not prepared to pay the large transfer fee so even if he is a success at Forest he was not a bargain.

One more point

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YT Oxford 17 Oct 22 8.16am
Originally posted by viveasheagle Definitely our worst performance of the season. I thought only Guita Guehi and Anderson played half decent. If our forward players are marked then someone form midfield has to run in behind to make space. This is the sort of game that high lights that we don't have a player with similar attributes to Conor Gallager who did this for us at times last year. I also thought our full backs did not push on enough as they might have if we had conceded a goal. Let's hope there is positive reaction against Wolves as this was not a premier league performance. I think Faes, who has only just started playing for Leicester, looks like he is going to be a good acquisition and has improved them defensively. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Faes was given the man of the match award by the BT Sport commentators. Which is interesting given that we offered no attacking threat whatsoever. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 17 Oct 22 8.16am

Originally posted by viveasheagle

Definitely our worst performance of the season. I thought only Guita Guehi and Anderson played half decent. If our forward players are marked then someone form midfield has to run in behind to make space. This is the sort of game that high lights that we don't have a player with similar attributes to Conor Gallager who did this for us at times last year. I also thought our full backs did not push on enough as they might have if we had conceded a goal.
Let's hope there is positive reaction against Wolves as this was not a premier league performance.
I think Faes, who has only just started playing for Leicester, looks like he is going to be a good acquisition and has improved them defensively.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Faes was given the man of the match award by the BT Sport commentators. Which is interesting given that we offered no attacking threat whatsoever.

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taylors lovechild 17 Oct 22 8.52am
The team played like they were hungover, taking too long on the ball and misplacing far too many passes. Although Jairo wasn't tested defensively, his composure and ability on the ball shone through when he came on. Some players you really root for and he's one of them, although ultimately I struggle to see him ever being a regular. We tend to do ok against Wolves as they don't generally press teams, which seems to suit us. Fingers crossed we play infinitely better tomorrow night. With regard to Wilf, has he had a good game since the transfer window closed? I can't help but feel that intentional or not his focus and drive have dipped since the possibility of a transfer evaporated. It'd be a brave call, but I almost wonder if it might do him some good to start on the bench tomorrow. Before the Leicester game Vieira spoke about him being difficult to work with, softening that by saying it comes from Wilf's desire to win. As always with Wilf it seems a complicated puzzle of how to best manage him to get him to perform.
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The team played like they were hungover, taking too long on the ball and misplacing far too many passes. Although Jairo wasn't tested defensively, his composure and ability on the ball shone through when he came on. Some players you really root for and he's one of them, although ultimately I struggle to see him ever being a regular. We tend to do ok against Wolves as they don't generally press teams, which seems to suit us. Fingers crossed we play infinitely better tomorrow night.

With regard to Wilf, has he had a good game since the transfer window closed? I can't help but feel that intentional or not his focus and drive have dipped since the possibility of a transfer evaporated. It'd be a brave call, but I almost wonder if it might do him some good to start on the bench tomorrow. Before the Leicester game Vieira spoke about him being difficult to work with, softening that by saying it comes from Wilf's desire to win. As always with Wilf it seems a complicated puzzle of how to best manage him to get him to perform.

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YT Oxford 17 Oct 22 9.10am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild The team played like they were hungover, taking too long on the ball and misplacing far too many passes. Although Jairo wasn't tested defensively, his composure and ability on the ball shone through when he came on. Some players you really root for and he's one of them, although ultimately I struggle to see him ever being a regular. We tend to do ok against Wolves as they don't generally press teams, which seems to suit us. Fingers crossed we play infinitely better tomorrow night. With regard to Wilf, has he had a good game since the transfer window closed? I can't help but feel that intentional or not his focus and drive have dipped since the possibility of a transfer evaporated. It'd be a brave call, but I almost wonder if it might do him some good to start on the bench tomorrow. Before the Leicester game Vieira spoke about him being difficult to work with, softening that by saying it comes from Wilf's desire to win. As always with Wilf it seems a complicated puzzle of how to best manage him to get him to perform. Yes, a strange thing to say. Imagine if your boss made it public that you were a difficult employee. Maybe "challenging" would have worked better, or maybe just say nothing. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 17 Oct 22 9.10am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

With regard to Wilf, has he had a good game since the transfer window closed? I can't help but feel that intentional or not his focus and drive have dipped since the possibility of a transfer evaporated. It'd be a brave call, but I almost wonder if it might do him some good to start on the bench tomorrow. Before the Leicester game Vieira spoke about him being difficult to work with, softening that by saying it comes from Wilf's desire to win. As always with Wilf it seems a complicated puzzle of how to best manage him to get him to perform.

Yes, a strange thing to say. Imagine if your boss made it public that you were a difficult employee. Maybe "challenging" would have worked better, or maybe just say nothing.

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silvertop Portishead 17 Oct 22 10.27am
I asked a question up the thread: why we were so crap? I will chuck in a theory. - Leicester better that their league place (bet we don't stuff Forest 4 - 0) - Condensed fixture list (e.g. we are playing tomorrow night). Need to preserve energy and avoid unnecessary cards and injuries. - With a relatively light squad in terms of quality. - And asking attack minded flair players to play conservatively Obviously, that does not excuse the inexplicable drop in quality of passing; but it might excuse the squad rotation, substitutes and dull, defensive performance. One or two better passes and we could have achieved the objective and have taken all 3 points against the run of play.
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Portishead 17 Oct 22 10.27am

I asked a question up the thread: why we were so crap? I will chuck in a theory.

- Leicester better that their league place (bet we don't stuff Forest 4 - 0)
- Condensed fixture list (e.g. we are playing tomorrow night). Need to preserve energy and avoid unnecessary cards and injuries.
- With a relatively light squad in terms of quality.
- And asking attack minded flair players to play conservatively

Obviously, that does not excuse the inexplicable drop in quality of passing; but it might excuse the squad rotation, substitutes and dull, defensive performance. One or two better passes and we could have achieved the objective and have taken all 3 points against the run of play.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Oct 22 10.43am
Originally posted by silvertop I asked a question up the thread: why we were so crap? I will chuck in a theory. - Leicester better that their league place (bet we don't stuff Forest 4 - 0) - Condensed fixture list (e.g. we are playing tomorrow night). Need to preserve energy and avoid unnecessary cards and injuries. - With a relatively light squad in terms of quality. - And asking attack minded flair players to play conservatively Obviously, that does not excuse the inexplicable drop in quality of passing; but it might excuse the squad rotation, substitutes and dull, defensive performance. One or two better passes and we could have achieved the objective and have taken all 3 points against the run of play. I'm more willing to subscribe to the 'we just didn't really turn up on the day' theory ST. A continuation of this performance will have disastrous consequences but whilst it is worthy of criticism and ridicule the old adages of 'not getting out of first gear', 'off day' and 'heads not in the game' etc may well be of relevance for the game. I don't think it outrageous to say 'we were awful' given the context of how we all know the team can play or to express another proverb of 'not being at the races'. It isn't hard either to imagine that some teams may not turn up to each and every single game giving the best showing of themselves. Haaland has looked like some sort of footballing deity this season and nigh unstoppable however was poor against Liverpool yesterday. Obvious deficiencies remain such as the lack of a midfield and it felt like a wasted opportunity however whilst possible for it to continue, I expect to see better in games to come (hopefully starting tomorrow). We gave a poor showing of ourselves against Leicester, one of our worst performances I've seen in a while however we came away with a point and a clean sheet. It's done for now and I sincerely hope for better against Wolves. 4 points from those two games would be great and superb in seasons recently passed and more than possible as things stand. Edited by Nicholas91 (17 Oct 2022 10.44am) Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Oct 22 10.43am

Originally posted by silvertop

I asked a question up the thread: why we were so crap? I will chuck in a theory.

I'm more willing to subscribe to the 'we just didn't really turn up on the day' theory ST.

A continuation of this performance will have disastrous consequences but whilst it is worthy of criticism and ridicule the old adages of 'not getting out of first gear', 'off day' and 'heads not in the game' etc may well be of relevance for the game.

I don't think it outrageous to say 'we were awful' given the context of how we all know the team can play or to express another proverb of 'not being at the races'. It isn't hard either to imagine that some teams may not turn up to each and every single game giving the best showing of themselves. Haaland has looked like some sort of footballing deity this season and nigh unstoppable however was poor against Liverpool yesterday.

Obvious deficiencies remain such as the lack of a midfield and it felt like a wasted opportunity however whilst possible for it to continue, I expect to see better in games to come (hopefully starting tomorrow).

We gave a poor showing of ourselves against Leicester, one of our worst performances I've seen in a while however we came away with a point and a clean sheet. It's done for now and I sincerely hope for better against Wolves. 4 points from those two games would be great and superb in seasons recently passed and more than possible as things stand.

Edited by Nicholas91 (17 Oct 2022 10.44am)

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Painter Croydon 17 Oct 22 10.52am
Originally posted by viveasheagle Definitely our worst performance of the season. I thought only Guita Guehi and Anderson played half decent. If our forward players are marked then someone form midfield has to run in behind to make space. This is the sort of game that high lights that we don't have a player with similar attributes to Conor Gallager who did this for us at times last year. I also thought our full backs did not push on enough as they might have if we had conceded a goal. Let's hope there is positive reaction against Wolves as this was not a premier league performance. I think Faes, who has only just started playing for Leicester, looks like he is going to be a good acquisition and has improved them defensively. We lost the corresponding game last season with Gallagher in the team. Just worth pointing out, as Gallagher isn’t the answer to every problem.
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Croydon 17 Oct 22 10.52am

Originally posted by viveasheagle

We lost the corresponding game last season with Gallagher in the team. Just worth pointing out, as Gallagher isn’t the answer to every problem.

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Painter Croydon 17 Oct 22 10.55am
Originally posted by Den1923 These are all very valid points, our recruiting has been poor for sometime now, we do not seem to be able to get transfers over the line and lose out to our competitors Gibbs-White is one example but there have been many others and to be fair to PV he has made it clear what he wanted last T/W but only really got Doucoure so I guess DF has to stand up and be counted as we are weak at getting good value talent unlike the clubs mentioned. Andersen, Guehi and Olise poor recruiting?
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Croydon 17 Oct 22 10.55am

Originally posted by Den1923

Andersen, Guehi and Olise poor recruiting?

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