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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Nov 22 10.42am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

We'll be lucky to be top half but the last couple of matches have certainly helped. Don't let this mean that the club think they don't need to strengthen in January.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 07 Nov 22 10.47am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

We'll be lucky to be top half but the last couple of matches have certainly helped. Don't let this mean that the club think they don't need to strengthen in January.

Wisest and most realistic post this far.

 


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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 07 Nov 22 11.15am Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

We are a proper Jekyll and Hyde team.

One minute world beaters the next relegation fodder.

If we can get over the "once we are safe stop playing" mentality then we could push on for Europe.

Finishing with a good win V Forest would leave us in a great position to push on. We could be 8th/9th going into the break and only one win from a europa place.

We would need to win our first two back and then get something out of the next four on the back of the confidence that would give us. Spuds ain't the same team without Son. Chelsea are on the way out of the big boys position, Newcastle are on the up but we can beat anyone at SP and Man utd are hit and miss.

We finish with 9 winnable games out of 10!!!

Its game on if we want it enough.

In fairness to the club, I don't think we do that

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 07 Nov 22 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Top 6? No, not this year at least. Top 10 suits me just fine, especially if we can avoid the prolonged agony of looking down.

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 07 Nov 22 12.56pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

07 Sep 22 5.04pm
Thats what i said at the start of the season, a few wrongens
1 Man City
2 Liverpool
3 Spurs
4 Arsenal
5 Chelsea
6 West Ham
7 Brighton
8 Man utd
9 Palace
10 Newcastle
11 Brentford
12 Villa
13 Leeds
14 Leicester
15 Everton
16 Wolves
17 Saints
18 Fulham
19 Forest
20 Bournemouth

 



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You fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your hometown
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 07 Nov 22 2.21pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

From the sublime to the ridiculous (and back again). Lose to Everton and we're nailed-on relegation fodder. Beat West Ham away and we're suddenly top six!

Both are nonsense. We are neither. We are an established PL team in our 10th PL season who are playing at a level that will likely see us on the border between top half and bottom half - in other words, basically where we currently are.

It is my opinion that all the teams currently above us (except Fulham) will likely finish the season ahead of us, so for me 9th is the highest we are likely to achieve. However, I see Villa and Leicester as genuine threats who might overtake us.

Considering we are only part way through a major restructuring of our playing staff and did the minimal of business in the last window, we are currently IMO punching above our weight.

whatever our result against Forest, it won't define our season.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 07 Nov 22 2.43pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

From the sublime to the ridiculous (and back again). Lose to Everton and we're nailed-on relegation fodder. Beat West Ham away and we're suddenly top six!

Both are nonsense. We are neither. We are an established PL team in our 10th PL season who are playing at a level that will likely see us on the border between top half and bottom half - in other words, basically where we currently are.

It is my opinion that all the teams currently above us (except Fulham) will likely finish the season ahead of us, so for me 9th is the highest we are likely to achieve. However, I see Villa and Leicester as genuine threats who might overtake us.

Considering we are only part way through a major restructuring of our playing staff and did the minimal of business in the last window, we are currently IMO punching above our weight.

whatever our result against Forest, it won't define our season.

I agree with all that. I think there are a few teams below us who are underperforming based on their squads but who also may well have money to invest in January to rectify it. Personally when Vieira took over I just wanted to see us play some exciting football and to avoid relegation. So far he's exceeded my expectations, but top 6 would take a minor miracle with the size and quality of our squad.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 07 Nov 22 4.20pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

We are a proper Jekyll and Hyde team.


Not surprisingly when we've fielded the following 'centurians' in our time:

Andy ROBERTS
Jack LEWIS
Alan STEPHENSON

 


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Originally posted by doombear

From the sublime to the ridiculous (and back again). Lose to Everton and we're nailed-on relegation fodder. Beat West Ham away and we're suddenly top six!

Both are nonsense. We are neither. We are an established PL team in our 10th PL season who are playing at a level that will likely see us on the border between top half and bottom half - in other words, basically where we currently are.

It is my opinion that all the teams currently above us (except Fulham) will likely finish the season ahead of us, so for me 9th is the highest we are likely to achieve. However, I see Villa and Leicester as genuine threats who might overtake us.

Considering we are only part way through a major restructuring of our playing staff and did the minimal of business in the last window, we are currently IMO punching above our weight.

whatever our result against Forest, it won't define our season.

This is about right. We're stuck in mid table obscurity which is a relatively dull existence. We're progressing well, but the reality is we have the 'Big Six' and now Newcastle. Even if the likes of Man Utd have a poor season, it's extremely tough for us to finish ahead of them, plus one other.

Parish is doing everything right. We're extending the stadium which will lead to more revenue and have a young squad who are all improving with experience. The future is bright. For a club our size it's almost impossible to cement ourselves as part of the top 6, we'd need a major outside investment like Chelsea, Newcastle and Man City, but would any of us honestly want that hollow success?

A one off wonder season could get us in the top 6, but its not realistic at the moment. I think 8th this season is probably the best we can do.

 

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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 07 Nov 22 5.23pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Absolutely no chance.


We have literally never won two games in a row under Vieira.
We have half a midfield.

We would need to be better than 2 of these teams, after 38 games, and a winter break, and a transfer window:

Manchester City
Liverpool
Arsenal
Tottenham
Chelsea
Newcastle
Manchester United

 

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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 07 Nov 22 5.35pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

From browsing around, it looks like we have the 11th highest wage bill in the Premier League. It basically means that the top 6 plus Leicester, West Ham, Newcastle & Villa should be finishing above us. Villa are poorly managed but otherwise, that's a fair representation of most fans' hopes.

That logic supports ~8th being as good a season as we could ever expect to have without something completely incredible happening, as Newcastle's wage bill will get closer to the current top 6. Let the top 7 do their thing and then win the 'rest of the PL' award.

We have about the 25th highest wage bill in Europe, similar to Napoli and Bilbao. Shows the pull of the Premier League for European talent.

 


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Originally posted by Qwijibo

Absolutely no chance.


We have literally never won two games in a row under Vieira.
We have half a midfield.

We would need to be better than 2 of these teams, after 38 games, and a winter break, and a transfer window:

Manchester City
Liverpool
Arsenal
Tottenham
Chelsea
Newcastle
Manchester United


So, what happened in those consecutive games at home to Soton and away at Spammers in the last two PL rounds?

Also, last season our win at the Etihad was followed by a home win over Wolves as was our win at Soton by a home win against Watford

Edited by doombear (07 Nov 2022 5.37pm)

 

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