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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Nov 22 11.14pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So no involvement from Russia?

With the actual voting tabulations?

No. None found. If there was, do you believe they would have favoured Biden over Trump?

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think I heard that in over 20 court cases Judges refused to review the evidence over these accusations. The cases were simply thrown out.

If that is accurate, I regard this claim that there was nothing to see as purely Democrat propaganda.

My opinion is that fraud happens in every election and that mail ballots shouldn't be allowed. People should have to show up in person and be verified on the day.

If cheating can happen, then it will happen.

However, I think liars and cheats are never the exclusive of any political party.

The fact is I don't know what really happened in those 2020 elections.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2022 8.22pm)

In any human activity there will be attempts at cheating. Some will be discovered, others not. What hasn't been found is any evidence at all of anything organised and on such a scale as to have any impact on the result.

Many Judges did throw the cases out of their Court, but only after reviewing the "evidence" presented and determining it wasn't admissible, that the plaintiffs were wasting the Court's time and trying to delay democracy.

We all know what happened in 2020! Trump tried to steal an election he lost, encouraged an insurrection, and lost again. Since then he has been working on promoting this latest of his Big Lies until even people like you start to have doubts.

More evidence of the parallel reality.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

In any human activity there will be attempts at cheating. Some will be discovered, others not. What hasn't been found is any evidence at all of anything organised and on such a scale as to have any impact on the result.

Many Judges did throw the cases out of their Court, but only after reviewing the "evidence" presented and determining it wasn't admissible, that the plaintiffs were wasting the Court's time and trying to delay democracy.

We all know what happened in 2020! Trump tried to steal an election he lost, encouraged an insurrection, and lost again. Since then he has been working on promoting this latest of his Big Lies until even people like you start to have doubts.

More evidence of the parallel reality.

In my view your first two paragraphs are debatable.

The third contains the Democrats' fantasy about 'insurrection'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2022 11.43pm)

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

With the actual voting tabulations?

No. None found. If there was, do you believe they would have favoured Biden over Trump?

Why not?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't think so.

The reality I perceive is the normal one, which has been with us for centuries.

The alternative has only grown since it was realised by some how to manipulate opinion via the internet, by planting unverified stories and conspiracy theories.

How do you know what has been with us for centuries? Not that I would be surprised if you claimed time travel as one of your many talents.

Amusing though

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 22 12.31pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Why not?

Because Putin knows Biden has no respect for him and that Trump can be manipulated. That's why he dumped on Clinton in 2016 and would do the same again in 2020.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 22 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

In my view your first two paragraphs are debatable.

The third contains the Democrats' fantasy about 'insurrection'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2022 11.43pm)

In my view this post confirms the existence of a parallel reality and how much people like you have been indoctrinated by it, and become embroiled into it.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 22 12.38pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

How do you know what has been with us for centuries? Not that I would be surprised if you claimed time travel as one of your many talents.

Amusing though

No need to travel in time. Since Caxton invented the printing press we can all read history. Even allowing for the fact that this can be distorted to suit agendas, there is enough to reach a general conclusion about how things have seen by most.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Because Putin knows Biden has no respect for him and that Trump can be manipulated. That's why he dumped on Clinton in 2016 and would do the same again in 2020.

Is it necessary to respect someone to be corruptible?

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Nov 22 12.59pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

I do love the assertion, despite those far more qualified and experienced in the field still agonising and hypothesising as to what Putin wants/is thinking/will do next, that a person on here would know exactly what his attitudes towards JB and DT are.

For what it's worth, I would have expected Putin to be far more hesitant in his actions with DT in office, a situation where his volatility and ego may have actually been of use, than he would be with an individual displaying the weakness, incompetency and/or senility of JB.

I think it naive to consider that voting within the US is all square and fair however equally so to throw full weight behind what Trump has been... trumpeting.

If he is to run in 2024, I would hope he did so with sincerity and less a focus on whipping up storms. As things stand, I can only see it being of detriment to the Republicans if he does. His campaigns seem not to be party but very much self serving. I think it will be more a vote against Biden than it will be in favour of any Republican candidate (not a very well educated or researched suggestion) and I would be inclined to believe even a seemingly half competent opponent may swing the vote back to that side of the proverbial political house.

Again, not a confidently asserted musing given my lack of expertise or knowledge just 'two cents' thrown in.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

In any human activity there will be attempts at cheating. Some will be discovered, others not. What hasn't been found is any evidence at all of anything organised and on such a scale as to have any impact on the result.

Many Judges did throw the cases out of their Court, but only after reviewing the "evidence" presented and determining it wasn't admissible, that the plaintiffs were wasting the Court's time and trying to delay democracy.

We all know what happened in 2020! Trump tried to steal an election he lost, encouraged an insurrection, and lost again. Since then he has been working on promoting this latest of his Big Lies until even people like you start to have doubts.

More evidence of the parallel reality.

Was it admissibility of evidence or that the case was so weak it failed to come close to meeting the burden of proof?

Very different beasts. The latter would suggest the actions were expensive political stunts by Trump which got their just deserts. The former and this comes under the category of "technicality" which just adds fuel to the conspiracy theory.

 

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Originally posted by Nicholas91

I do love the assertion, despite those far more qualified and experienced in the field still agonising and hypothesising as to what Putin wants/is thinking/will do next, that a person on here would know exactly what his attitudes towards JB and DT are.

For what it's worth, I would have expected Putin to be far more hesitant in his actions with DT in office, a situation where his volatility and ego may have actually been of use, than he would be with an individual displaying the weakness, incompetency and/or senility of JB.

I think it naive to consider that voting within the US is all square and fair however equally so to throw full weight behind what Trump has been... trumpeting.

If he is to run in 2024, I would hope he did so with sincerity and less a focus on whipping up storms. As things stand, I can only see it being of detriment to the Republicans if he does. His campaigns seem not to be party but very much self serving. I think it will be more a vote against Biden than it will be in favour of any Republican candidate (not a very well educated or researched suggestion) and I would be inclined to believe even a seemingly half competent opponent may swing the vote back to that side of the proverbial political house.

Again, not a confidently asserted musing given my lack of expertise or knowledge just 'two cents' thrown in.

For Putin I suspect Biden is seen as an internationalist who sees the US role as world cop thus presenting a hurdle to his extra national machinations.

Trump is more a drawbridge up non interventionist type who also has a well publicised admiration for Putin as Putin has for him.

However this Putin/Trump bromance theory fails on the fact that Putin invaded under Biden. Perhaps this is just another case of our Russian friend getting it all wrong.

Again.

 

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