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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 14 Dec 22 12.25pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

If we were to get an offer of £15m in January, we'd have to seriously consider it. Not sure much less than that is worth it - his goals in the second half of the season are probably worth about 4 league places to us and the prize money for that would cover anything much less than £15m.

If he were to go, I'd try and sign Diaz at Blackburn (out of contract in the summer, plays LW and ST) and get Smith-Rowe in on a loan until the end of the season. He's meant to be back in January, needs to get his fitness up and I'm not convinced he'll get much game time at Arsenal outside of cup competitions.


 


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The window shuts end of Jan, see where we are after the Fulham & Bournemouth games. If we’re sitting on 25 points I’d feel less nervous about letting Wilf go. If we’re still on 19 points - have a look at our run of games up to the middle of March and ask yourself if you’d be happy without Wilf.

 


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even half a season of wilf is worth at least 25 million to us

 

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Originally posted by eaglesdare

even half a season of wilf is worth at least 25 million to us

For him to be worth £25m in prize money, that's the difference between us finishing 17th and 7th. Haaland might be the only player in the league capable of that sort of impact.

 


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Originally posted by ambrose7

For him to be worth £25m in prize money, that's the difference between us finishing 17th and 7th. Haaland might be the only player in the league capable of that sort of impact.


Its more the difference between relegation and mid table finish for us so maybe 125 million!

I mean take away his goals and assists this season and where are we? likewise last season where do we finish?

 

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Although i want him to sign a new contract, wouldn't you be amazed if one of the big clubs try to jump the queue in January with a 15m offer and make it known in the media there has been a bid

 


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Although i want him to sign a new contract, wouldn't you be amazed if one of the big clubs try to jump the queue in January with a 15m offer and make it known in the media there has been a bid

Apart from the click bait rubbish, the more reliable media are suggesting that Zaha will not be allowed to leave in January while he is still under contract.

Unless Palace get made a offer that they financially can't refuse ( and in my view that would need to be well in excess of £15m ), I think Wilf will be staying until next summer.

 


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Its the sort of thing both Arsenal & Spurs would do to try to nick him on the cheap & to unsettle our squad -

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Although i want him to sign a new contract, wouldn't you be amazed if one of the big clubs try to jump the queue in January with a 15m offer and make it known in the media there has been a bid

 

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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Its the sort of thing both Arsenal & Spurs would do to try to nick him on the cheap & to unsettle our squad -

Spurs offered around 15 million well before Wilf's contract was running out.

 


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Although i want him to sign a new contract, wouldn't you be amazed if one of the big clubs try to jump the queue in January with a 15m offer and make it known in the media there has been a bid

I would be amazed if we accepted 15 mill for him before that to tell the truth , because of the sell on clause for United to get 30 percent of any fee ( correct me if im wrong ) , so your only talking 10 mill for him for half a season . Other clubs will know that we are desperatley looking for a replacement for him and hold us to randsom . I would love him to sign a new contract , but more than that i would love to finally put an end to the will he go wont he go circus that comes with every window .

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 21 Dec 22 12.16pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Whether it's next month or in the summer Wilf will surely go, and it will be the most significant individual departure since Ian Wright left for Arsenal 30 years ago.

The financial equation is important of course (how many points/league places/millions does Wilf equate to vs the fee we might get), but managing the other implications is equally important.

When Ian Wright went to Arsenal it was much more than a case of 'How do we find a similar replacement, or otherwise adapt the tactics?', which is how many are approaching the loss of Wilf.

Back in 1991, not only did the team lose its best player and top goalscorer, the club lost its heart. That group of players had been on a mission together, to go from being rejects and lower-league pros to being successful top-flight players and internationals. Selling Wright sent a clear message to the rest of the players: Despite everything we've done, we still have our place in the pecking order. All the momentum was lost. Very quickly the other key players saw that they had taken Palace as far as it could ever go, and in turn, been taken as far as Palace could take them. They all quickly moved on to 'bigger' clubs too.

Football is different now. The big boys are unreachable, and if they want a player from a smaller club then the transfer is inevitable. Players, who never stay anywhere for long anyway, are not surprised to see their best teammate leave for a big club. Olise and Eze will have considered Palace a stepping stone from day one, and Zaha moving on will not affect their career planning. When Wilf goes the shockwave will not be the same for Palace as it was when Wright did.

Even so, Wilf is not only (despite slowing down a bit, and the various faults he may have) an utterly irreplaceable player, he is a big personality. He's an emotional guy who isn't shy in telling his teammates if they aren't doing well enough. That's pretty rare these days. Who else will do it? Jimmy Mac is for the knackers yard, Ward doesn't have the same clout.

Every time we struggle to score over the next year or two, every pundit in the land will cite Wilf's absence as the reason. The players will have to live with that perception (that Wilf had been carrying them) as much as with the reality of losing such an effective player and big personality. Are they up to it? Not sure.

I think we will miss the person as much as the player, and miss the person more than we realise.

 

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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Whether it's next month or in the summer Wilf will surely go, and it will be the most significant individual departure since Ian Wright left for Arsenal 30 years ago.

The financial equation is important of course (how many points/league places/millions does Wilf equate to vs the fee we might get), but managing the other implications is equally important.

When Ian Wright went to Arsenal it was much more than a case of 'How do we find a similar replacement, or otherwise adapt the tactics?', which is how many are approaching the loss of Wilf.

Back in 1991, not only did the team lose its best player and top goalscorer, the club lost its heart. That group of players had been on a mission together, to go from being rejects and lower-league pros to being successful top-flight players and internationals. Selling Wright sent a clear message to the rest of the players: Despite everything we've done, we still have our place in the pecking order. All the momentum was lost. Very quickly the other key players saw that they had taken Palace as far as it could ever go, and in turn, been taken as far as Palace could take them. They all quickly moved on to 'bigger' clubs too.

Football is different now. The big boys are unreachable, and if they want a player from a smaller club then the transfer is inevitable. Players, who never stay anywhere for long anyway, are not surprised to see their best teammate leave for a big club. Olise and Eze will have considered Palace a stepping stone from day one, and Zaha moving on will not affect their career planning. When Wilf goes the shockwave will not be the same for Palace as it was when Wright did.

Even so, Wilf is not only (despite slowing down a bit, and the various faults he may have) an utterly irreplaceable player, he is a big personality. He's an emotional guy who isn't shy in telling his teammates if they aren't doing well enough. That's pretty rare these days. Who else will do it? Jimmy Mac is for the knackers yard, Ward doesn't have the same clout.

Every time we struggle to score over the next year or two, every pundit in the land will cite Wilf's absence as the reason. The players will have to live with that perception (that Wilf had been carrying them) as much as with the reality of losing such an effective player and big personality. Are they up to it? Not sure.

I think we will miss the person as much as the player, and miss the person more than we realise.

Spot on

 


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