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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Feb 23 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Yep, you're right Mr R, he is only 20, but why is that an issue? The papers are full of stories about Kane who has just beaten Greaves' goal scoring record at Spurs. He scored his first for them when he was 18.

I know the arguments for giving Rak-Sakyi more experience at a lower level, but personally, I would like to see him given more game time at Palace right now.

I guess we have to bow to the knowledge and experience of our coaching staff to do what's best for him and the club.

The management and coaching staff are clearly of the opinion that it is in the interests of the player and the club that Rak-Sakyi plays regularly rather than be a bit-part player in the PL.

A young Harry Kane played on loan in the Championship and League One, and David Beckham had a loan spell in the Third Division.

Someone has just informed me that Brighton have 23 players out on loan.

Edited by Willo (07 Feb 2023 2.01pm)

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 07 Feb 23 2.08pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Yep, you're right Mr R, he is only 20, but why is that an issue? The papers are full of stories about Kane who has just beaten Greaves' goal scoring record at Spurs. He scored his first for them when he was 18.

I know the arguments for giving Rak-Sakyi more experience at a lower level, but personally, I would like to see him given more game time at Palace right now.

I guess we have to bow to the knowledge and experience of our coaching staff to do what's best for him and the club.

Age isn't an issue at all. Simply making the point that we can afford to take our time with him. Outside of 2 appearances for the first team, he's only got 25 professional games under his belt.

Kane had a couple of Championship and a Prem loan before playing for Spurs.

Personally I'd want JEs to start next season at a Champ club, and recall him in Jan if he's flying.

League 1 - Prem is one hell of a step up.

 

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 08 Feb 23 5.09pm Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Age isn't an issue at all. Simply making the point that we can afford to take our time with him. Outside of 2 appearances for the first team, he's only got 25 professional games under his belt.

Kane had a couple of Championship and a Prem loan before playing for Spurs.

Personally I'd want JEs to start next season at a Champ club, and recall him in Jan if he's flying.

League 1 - Prem is one hell of a step up.

Not only did Kane have a number of loans before establishing himself at Spurs if i recall his loan at Leicester wasn't overly successful.
I think he did quite well at Millwall the year before.
I suppose what i'm saying is he took a few years to get to Prem standard, although i appreciate all players are different.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 08 Feb 23 5.17pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

Not only did Kane have a number of loans before establishing himself at Spurs if i recall his loan at Leicester wasn't overly successful.
I think he did quite well at Millwall the year before.
I suppose what i'm saying is he took a few years to get to Prem standard, although i appreciate all players are different.

Every Millwall fan I know struggles to recall him to any great extent and I previously worked with a Norwich season ticket holder who quite angrily (which was out of character) expressed that he thought Kane was rubbish (to be polite) in his few games there.

So perhaps does not tell you everything.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 08 Feb 23 5.32pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Kane is a bit of a ridiculous measuring stick to use - if memory serves it was Jude Bellingham earlier in the thread... I think we need to be a bit more realistic as to JRS's potential which is certainly not on the same planet as a Kane or Bellingham.

I think I made the comment previously that JRS is older than Olise - he may well make it as a Premier League player but even that is probably best case scenario and far from guaranteed.

Sullay KaiKai looked good in league one aged 20, and he's still playing there now.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Feb 23 5.47pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Every Millwall fan I know struggles to recall him to any great extent and I previously worked with a Norwich season ticket holder who quite angrily (which was out of character) expressed that he thought Kane was rubbish (to be polite) in his few games there.

So perhaps does not tell you everything.

I understand Kane was rejected by Arsenal for being too portly and not fleet of foot.
He has had Loan spells at L.Orient, Millwall,Norwich and Leicester, in fact he was at Leicester at the same time as Schlupp.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 08 Feb 23 6.45pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Kane is a bit of a ridiculous measuring stick to use - if memory serves it was Jude Bellingham earlier in the thread... I think we need to be a bit more realistic as to JRS's potential which is certainly not on the same planet as a Kane or Bellingham.

I think I made the comment previously that JRS is older than Olise - he may well make it as a Premier League player but even that is probably best case scenario and far from guaranteed.

Sullay KaiKai looked good in league one aged 20, and he's still playing there now.

Well, if you did make that comment, I'm afraid you were wrong. Olise was born in Dec 2001 whereas JRS was born in Oct 2002.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 08 Feb 23 7.11pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Well, if you did make that comment, I'm afraid you were wrong. Olise was born in Dec 2001 whereas JRS was born in Oct 2002.

I stand corrected!

I think the point still stands - Olise was playing and impressing in the premier league at the age JRS is doing the same in league one.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 08 Feb 23 7.58pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I stand corrected!

I think the point still stands - Olise was playing and impressing in the premier league at the age JRS is doing the same in league one.

Absolutely, but players do develop at different rates. The important question is:
Is JRS still developing?

Given the way he has taken to League 1 football and the esteem with which he seems to be held by Clown fans, it seems that he is.

There is a genuine possibility IMO that Championship clubs will be wanting his services next season and if he performs in that league he will have a good chance of becoming a PL player. A long way to go, I know but not impossible. Let's not forget that Gallagher's first loan spell was with the Clowns in League 1 before moving up to Swansea in the Championship etc.

 

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View lush1076's Profile lush1076 Flag leatherhead 08 Feb 23 8.10pm Send a Private Message to lush1076 Add lush1076 as a friend

He might be playing with us in the championship next season.

 

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View PJEagle's Profile PJEagle Flag London 08 Feb 23 9.01pm Send a Private Message to PJEagle Add PJEagle as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Age isn't an issue at all. Simply making the point that we can afford to take our time with him. Outside of 2 appearances for the first team, he's only got 25 professional games under his belt.

Kane had a couple of Championship and a Prem loan before playing for Spurs.

Personally I'd want JEs to start next season at a Champ club, and recall him in Jan if he's flying.

League 1 - Prem is one hell of a step up.

Ideally we'd want him involved in the first team squad 23/24

 

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View djcpfc's Profile djcpfc Flag Within a 5 minute walk 08 Feb 23 9.02pm Send a Private Message to djcpfc Add djcpfc as a friend

Iím quite glad JRS has stayed at Charlton for the rest of the season.

Clearly itís important just like any other young player he gets games, and it allowed to make mistakes, and learn without fear of losing his place in the side. Charlton are mid-table L1 might have a squeak of the play-offs, like to try and play a bit, and therefore you couldnít really hope for a better situation for him.

Let him learn his trade and see where he is across the remainder of his contract. There are quite a few players ahead of him in the pecking order, and Iím sure a few behind him too. I think you can see he has an eye for goal, hopefully heíll get a chance in red and blue again let us see what he does with it.

 

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