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View Brinscalleagle2's Profile Brinscalleagle2 Flag Brinscall 13 Jan 23 4.47pm Send a Private Message to Brinscalleagle2 Add Brinscalleagle2 as a friend

I guess there is a ray of hope since in today’s press conference PV stated that we are looking for more physicality and more experience. We have experience in defence and in forward areas the way we play the physical strength element is not top of the list so my guess is we are at least looking to bring in an experienced strong midfielder.Who or if we get one is anyones guess.COYP

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 13 Jan 23 4.53pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Hopefully we are as almost every Palace supporter will tell you that midfield is where our major problems lie. Equally hopefully Parish isn't pinning all of his hopes on getting Conor Gallagher as that is unlikely to happen.

On your second point, are we trying to sign a striker or is that just agent and media talk?

I would imagine IF Parish were pinning all his hopes on getting Gallagher it is not 'unlikely to happen', you know, what with him knowing just a tad more about whats going on behind the scenes than you do.
For what its worth a very good friend of mine (Chelsea fan who lives close to the Gallagher family in Bookham and shares a season ticket with Conor's uncle) tells me Gallagher (despite loving his time at Palace) has closed that chapter and now has little interest in returning to Palace either on loan or permanently. He currently feels he has a future at Chelsea but if sold will only leave for a top half team or will go abroad. We wont see Conor Gallagher in a Palace shirt again

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 13 Jan 23 4.57pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

I don't get all this fuss about Kouyate.

Sure, he was a strong defensive midfielder but he had no creativity or passing skills at all.

What we need is a creative, ball holding player.

Find one and then Doucoure can be relied on defensively and the new guy will supply the service for our half-starved forwards and we will score more than we let in.

 


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View jabber's Profile jabber Flag pease pottage 13 Jan 23 5.01pm Send a Private Message to jabber Add jabber as a friend

We missed out on gibbs white.

Edited by jabber (13 Jan 2023 5.02pm)

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 13 Jan 23 6.32pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'We lack height in defence' - PV.

Really Patrick how can that be?

Kouyate is 6.4".

How many such players are available and how much would it cost to buy one?

Answer a damn sight more.




You seem to infer that Kouyate's departure had something to do with Vieira. I suspect it has more to do with Parish and Freedman.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 13 Jan 23 6.36pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by jabber

We missed out on gibbs white.

Edited by jabber (13 Jan 2023 5.02pm)


Would you have paid £40m plus for him? There's no way our owners would. I believe we may have been interested in him up to the £20-25m mark but not when teh stakes went higher.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jan 23 6.48pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


You seem to infer that Kouyate's departure had something to do with Vieira. I suspect it has more to do with Parish and Freedman.

Possibly, I read that the players themselves cautioned against it too, very strange to me if PV really wanted Cheikhou he would not be able to keep him.

The cost of replacing him with a like player I don't even know if there is one, Dan Burn very tall 13 millions Brighton to Newcastle what a bargain.


 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Jan 23 7.11pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Would you have paid £40m plus for him? There's no way our owners would. I believe we may have been interested in him up to the £20-25m mark but not when teh stakes went higher.

Nottm For paid £25 Mill rising up to £42.5 Mill with add-ons.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 13 Jan 23 7.24pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

I would imagine IF Parish were pinning all his hopes on getting Gallagher it is not 'unlikely to happen', you know, what with him knowing just a tad more about whats going on behind the scenes than you do.

I'm sure that I recall a time many years ago when you used to be a decent poster but nowadays you just snipe at everybody. What happened to you to turn you into such a (insert own word)

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 13 Jan 23 8.20pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

With respect, the club never expressed the sentiments that he was surplus to requirements and shown the door.
The club wanted to retain his services but on a 1 year contract.

Willo, of course technically you are right but in my view if you refuse to negotiate or consider your negotiating position then to all intents and purposes you are telling the person on the other side of the table that he's not valuable enough to compromise your beliefs which, effectively, is saying "if we have to change our position to keep you, then you're surplus to requirements".

And in Kouyate's case, saying "it's my way or the highway" was a horribly bad decision that is now coming back to haunt us. Had we replaced both Kouyate AND Gallager with Doucoure and someone else, that would be less the case and I'd be more sympathetic to your view but as things stand now, the club clearly thought saving a few quid was more important than strengthening (actually, simply maintaining) the side. That's the sort of behaviour from owners that loses you good managers sooner or later, usually sooner.

The 2021 summer window was a triumph. The 2022 summer window is looking like the opposite.

 


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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 13 Jan 23 8.23pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

For what its worth a very good friend of mine (Chelsea fan who lives close to the Gallagher family in Bookham and shares a season ticket with Conor's uncle) tells me Gallagher (despite loving his time at Palace) has closed that chapter and now has little interest in returning to Palace either on loan or permanently. He currently feels he has a future at Chelsea but if sold will only leave for a top half team or will go abroad. We wont see Conor Gallagher in a Palace shirt again

Thanks. For me, this is the sort of post (and inside information) that makes these forums worth reading. Obviously, we have to take you and the above on trust but it sounds credible enough to me.

 


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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 13 Jan 23 8.30pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

I don't get all this fuss about Kouyate.

Sure, he was a strong defensive midfielder but he had no creativity or passing skills at all.

What we need is a creative, ball holding player.

Find one and then Doucoure can be relied on defensively and the new guy will supply the service for our half-starved forwards and we will score more than we let in.

You are apparently one of many people who misunderstand Doucoure. Doucoure is the creative midfielder, the one who can get forward and play a pass or shoot from distance. But without a Kouyate in midfield with him to play the sitting role, he can't (and hasn't been able to) get forward for us. On the rare occasions he has got up the pitch, you can see his potential to make things happen going forward, but his role in the team doesn't allow him to use those skills to the full. That is why letting Kouyate go was such an awful idea; it has held back our biggest summer signing.

 


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