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View MKCPFC's Profile MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 12 Feb 23 10.56am Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Willo
The breath of fresh air was actually Connor, he had a phenomenal season, if Roy had had a Gallagher we would have played better football and finished higher in the league.
If anyone says Roy wouldn't have played him , yes he would have because he always grafted.
Without Gallagher Patrick is playing his way Without any players to make it work and no effective game plan.


To be brutally honesty I have been disappointed with Doucoure.
Allegedly, he was a player that Vieira really wanted at the club.

There was a breath of fresh air when Vieira was appointed and we played much more progressive football than we did during the era of Mr Hodgson.

Sadly we now smell the stench of stale air as the team has alarmingly gone into 'Reverse gear' with damaging statistics and performances which leave a great deal to be desired.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Feb 23 10.57am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

We are in decline and the manager is annoying me by his apparent 'satisfaction' and 'we were well organised' comments, etc.

He is either an idiot or very naive and it is worrying that he seems to have zero motivation skills.

When someone (Derry) speaks out he gets the boot. Also worrying is he seems to be following the trend at all his previous clubs - a promising start and then a slow (and terminal) decline.

On the bright (!) side we have got 3 more points than predicted from our games v. United, Newcastle and Brighton so we must be thankful for that .....

I believe on HOL I asserted that whilst it is possible that we could attain a top 10 finish, perhaps in a solitary season, my view was that for the foreseeable future the best we could attain is perhaps 12th which of course is where we are at the present time.

What is currently alarming is the 'Direction of travel'.Only 1 win in our last 9 PL games and that was at lowly Bournemouth.Only 6 points from these games and only 5 goals scored.Running stats the lowest in the PL and some abject performances.

It is only a matter of time before we are overtaken by some of the teams below us.Southampton have just sacked Jones, so perhaps they will benefit from a new manager 'Bounce'.

Edited by Willo (12 Feb 2023 11.00am)

 

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View Noz's Profile Noz Flag North Hampshire 12 Feb 23 11.03am Send a Private Message to Noz Add Noz as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Doucoure is fine for Ligue 1, but out of his depth in the Premiership, 22.6m wasted

A stat that was banded around during the game is that Doucoure has the most interceptions in the premier league: and for playing in that CDM role, that is exactly what he is there for.

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Above Declan Rice, Hojberg, and Gueye all playing the same position.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 12 Feb 23 11.27am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Noz

A stat that was banded around during the game is that Doucoure has the most interceptions in the premier league: and for playing in that CDM role, that is exactly what he is there for.

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Above Declan Rice, Hojberg, and Gueye all playing the same position.

Yeah Iím not sure where the criticism of Doucoure comes from?

I still think heís one of our more solid players in there and if anything thereís so little in front of him and Hughes when we play it can be easy to see why the CMs might be the two most frustrated players on the pitch.

I just couldnít see where any inspiration, game plan for getting in on goal or threat was coming from when we moved it forward yesterday.

Schlupp becomes almost completely ineffective when starting a match but is useful as an impact sub, Iíve got a lot of love for Ayew but he seems to play his own match all the time, Olise is not a CAM needs players around him and to be isolated against full backs so he can perform with a bit of independence and Iíve long stood up for him but JPM looked absolutely awful.

Playing as we do with so many individualistic players who Iím assuming are supposed to be interchanging in positions just pans out as an ineffective unit with no cohesion or rhythm, hence the inability to create let alone finish from open play.

Whatever PV is trying to do is not working however he seems incapable of changing things.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 12 Feb 23 11.31am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I believe on HOL I asserted that whilst it is possible that we could attain a top 10 finish, perhaps in a solitary season, my view was that for the foreseeable future the best we could attain is perhaps 12th which of course is where we are at the present time.

What is currently alarming is the 'Direction of travel'.Only 1 win in our last 9 PL games and that was at lowly Bournemouth.Only 6 points from these games and only 5 goals scored.Running stats the lowest in the PL and some abject performances.

It is only a matter of time before we are overtaken by some of the teams below us.Southampton have just sacked Jones, so perhaps they will benefit from a new manager 'Bounce'.

Edited by Willo (12 Feb 2023 11.00am)

Did not Newcastle just scrape a draw at lowly Bournemouth? Funny how a point earned against a team above us is a cause for concern but we only beat those below us because they are "lowly".

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 12 Feb 23 11.31am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Arsenal, West Ham and Brighton denied victories by VAR.

The West Ham one stands out, where the spam defender tipped a goal-bound ball expertly round the post.

However somehow that was 'not handball'!

To my mind the Brighton scorer was not offside but their player in front of him to the left was, when the ball was last kicked.

But it's all become totally bonkers.

Scrap VAR completely and change handball to be deliberate and offside to be a player completely in front of the last defender when the ball last kicked.

Just a thought.



 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Feb 23 11.34am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I watched through the game again and the positive is that we were no worse than recent performances - crap, but no worse. Obviously, Guaita had a good game. Mitchell was terrible. Midfield non existent, a couple of presses but no accuracy or thought or movement in attack.
Overall kind of a four out of ten, lucky that Brighton were only a five at best.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 12 Feb 23 11.43am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I watched through the game again and the positive is that we were no worse than recent performances - crap, but no worse. Obviously, Guaita had a good game. Mitchell was terrible. Midfield non existent, a couple of presses but no accuracy or thought or movement in attack.
Overall kind of a four out of ten, lucky that Brighton were only a five at best.

At about 89Ē they had the ball out wide and played a cross in that only just sailed over heads and went out for a GK. I turned to my brother and said ďWeíre lucky thereís been so many of them todayĒ. They looked leagues apart from us in controlling the match, their passing and football, they just looked very weak in front of goal and for that I am extremely grateful.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View rollercoaster's Profile rollercoaster Flag Cornwall 12 Feb 23 11.56am Send a Private Message to rollercoaster Add rollercoaster as a friend

Agreed things don't look right in the camp. However, couple of things to remind folk of:

Last season we looked just as terrible when either Anderson or Guehi were not playing. Stated on here often and by many that the system did not work unless we had two ball playing centrebacks.

We've known for years that the team cannot score when Wilf is not playing and lets's be honest for most of this season even when fit Wilf has not played.

Last season's midfield that was so successful has completely gone, not just one player but all of it. It is no wonder an under pressure defence look fragile and an unsupported attack look totally ineffective.

Let's hope things improve when Anderson and Wilf are back and our new midfielders have been integrated and are starting games. The only bit of good news from all this is that we are having our poor(very) spell during a run of games where we were expecting to lose most of them anyway.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Feb 23 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Did not Newcastle just scrape a draw at lowly Bournemouth? Funny how a point earned against a team above us is a cause for concern but we only beat those below us because they are "lowly".

The "Cause for concern" goes beyond attaining a point against a team above us in the table.

The fact remains that we beat Bournemouth, a team below is in the table, who had lost 2 of their previous 3 Home games and 1 was against struggling Southampton.

Edited by Willo (12 Feb 2023 12.03pm)

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 12 Feb 23 12.56pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

So you've passed judgement based upon what exactly ?

PV said that he thought we would benefit from some experience in midfield. The club presented him with two players that have very little and none.

They are not playing are they, PV said he wanted both the players.

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 12 Feb 23 1.01pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

we are know 9 to 1 to be relegated, we were 26 to 1 a month ago, after Brentford, Liverpool, A Villa and Man city we will be about 3 to 1

 


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Ordinary morality is only for ordinary people. The key of joy is disobedience.
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