I have calmed down before waiting to post but have read most previous posts and there seems to be no doubt that we are all somewhat concerned!
We are deep in the mire now and much as I want PV to succeed I am not sure that he knows what to do any longer.
He tinkers with the team and constantly drops certain players while keeping others in there regardless of how badly they might be playing.
There also seems to be no plan which worries me.
The players look constantly knackered compared to other teams and therefore we don't press as much as we could.
We have bought a new player and left him on the bench and Derry has been fired for shouting at the players (as far as we know anyway).
Something is wrong in the club/team at the moment and although PV was an incredible footballer I do wonder if he is out of his depth now with the tools he has at his disposal?
Worrying times

As long as Crystal Palace stay up, book Mark this post, a offer has been in too buy crystal palace, as long as we stay up, the club will be sold this summer,I will not post again till club is sold.

Dosent it ever cross your mind that the atmosphere and despondency among some players is the root cause by the manager, when under Roy there was know lack of effort by anyone, apart from the Statuesque Benteke, how do you explain the current disparaging situation

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

I'm not seeking to defend Vieira or to claim he is a great man manager.
What I am suggesting is that it's down to individual players to make themselves undroppable, to demonstrate why they should be amongst the first names on the team sheet.
The likes of Eze and Edouard have not demonstrated this.
A good 20 mins every 5 or so games is not enough.
When both showed good form in the early part of the season they were selected.

There could be an argument that Vieira is failing to get the best out of them but this theory could only be definitively tested if they were to excel under another manager as opposed to Vieira.
We shall have to see and time will tell.

Mark my words in this post, I will post again - maybe later in a few minutes. But I will not post again until then. Remember that.

Red and Blue Army!

Have to admit I'm now leaning towards there being a change.

I don't think we've recruited particularly well but the complete inability of the team to play with any intensity or energy or raise the tempo at all is undisputable IMO. This alongside the distance covered stat isn't great.

The tough run of fixtures argument doesn't hold much water either as there has been inconsistency throughout the division all season.

I think everyone's view (including my own) would probably be a little different if we'd hung on and got the three points at Brentford when ironically it was one of Viera's trusted players in Ayew that let him down most.

Also stats around our play including having two of the four most dispossessed players in the Premier League in Zaha(1) and Ayew(4) not forgetting an honourable mention for the lazy Edouard (in 20th) despite his relatively low minutes.

I can't put forward any suggestions although definitely not Derry or Freedman who both have poor managerial records and fall into the dinosaur category IMO irrespective of broader politics.