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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 19 Mar 23 12.03am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by fish mitten

Marvellous just what we need.

Parishís obsession with ex players isnít necessarily a great thing. If he has upset half the players they are hardly going to be overjoyed heís back.

Someone who failed in management at Cambridge United. If correct then this has all the markings of Parish trying to appease the fans.

I loved Shaun Derry the player. But heís not Shaun Derry the player, heís Shaun Derry who pissed off a lot of the players (allegedly).

Apologies Iím a right grumpy git at the moment. Canít believe how badly this season is panning out after the promise of last. I would say typical Palace, but itís still annoying and was avoidable will a little more investment in the team.

Our football is virtually unwatchable at the moment and SOMEONE should tell the players! They certainly haven't earned the inflated wages they've been paid.

 


Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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View crvenaeagle's Profile crvenaeagle Flag 19 Mar 23 3.16am Send a Private Message to crvenaeagle Add crvenaeagle as a friend

Originally posted by fish mitten

Of course you are right Cryst having witnessed all of these we still have a decent chance of staying up.

What concerns me is we should have either acted earlier or not at all. It smacks of a panic move and my concerns are we are now even more likely to go down than before. Talk of appointing Roy or getting Shaun Derry in is almost comedy. What a place to leave ourselves in. Not often I have much to say for Watford but one manager is out and one is in the next or same day. It seems we have sacked Vieira without even sounding out a replacement first. You might do that in November but not in the middle of March.

Bringing in a temporary manager is a sign of desperation and potentially ruins next season as well. Especially how long it has taken Parish before to appoint a manager over the summer before.

Still we will still all be supporting Palace whatever league they are in.

You're right, it does smack of a panic move. It smacks of somebody thinking the fans would be calling for PVs head after the Brighton loss and trying to appease them, rather than thinking logically.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Mar 23 5.17am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

You're right, it does smack of a panic move. It smacks of somebody thinking the fans would be calling for PVs head after the Brighton loss and trying to appease them, rather than thinking logically.

But SP didnít try to appease the fans during covid under RH when we were playing
8-1-1 football. I doubt fans are his sole reason for this.

 

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View crvenaeagle's Profile crvenaeagle Flag 19 Mar 23 5.21am Send a Private Message to crvenaeagle Add crvenaeagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

But SP didnít try to appease the fans during covid under RH when we were playing
8-1-1 football. I doubt fans are his sole reason for this.

True but Roy was safe.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Mar 23 5.25am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

True but Roy was safe.

Granted but what a bore. Football should at least get the adrenaline flowing. Under Roy I needed it injected

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 19 Mar 23 6.14am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

I would not mind Paddy & Derry for the remainder of the season. And that they will look past Ayew and Schlupp when putting up the team.
Play kind of 4-4-2 thus strengthening the midfield.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Mar 23 6.53am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dynamicdick

From a rumour I heard, so unsubstantiated, Derry read the team the riot act in the dressing room after the Everton debacle and this was something PV apparently didnít want to do.

No. He didn't want Derry to do it as it wasn't his job as it was PV's responsibility

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 19 Mar 23 6.59am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Presumably SP put SD on gardening leave because he already had doubts about how long PV was going to be in charge.

Originally posted by Spiderman

Apparently SP put him on gardening leave, rather than sack him. Undermining PV? Didnít Parish criticise fans for their obsession with ex-players? Seems he is the one with the obsession.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 19 Mar 23 10.57am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Granted but what a bore. Football should at least get the adrenaline flowing. Under Roy I needed it injected

His job was to just keep us up no frills with the squad he had at the time, investment here and there on the pitch hasn't helped our better players one bit, so we need someone like him to organise the players for a nasty battle that isn't going to be pretty to watch and one which is again nothing to do with the manager.

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 19 Mar 23 12.12pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

You're right, it does smack of a panic move. It smacks of somebody thinking the fans would be calling for PVs head after the Brighton loss and trying to appease them, rather than thinking logically.

Judging by the number of posts on here calling for PV's head both before and after Brighton, Parish was correct in his perception of what a large number of fans were feeling.

But that doesn't make the sacking right. I can't get out of my mind Kompany's take on the whole affair: "Vieira was over-achieving", given the terrible run of fixtures we'd come through. I wonder whether Parish will start to suffer "seller's remorse" if a suitable replacement can't be found.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 19 Mar 23 12.26pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Presumably SP put SD on gardening leave because he already had doubts about how long PV was going to be in charge.

This would be my reading of things considering the doubts the Board reportedly had about PV previously. Also Derry will have some employment rights.

 

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View djcpfc's Profile djcpfc Flag Within a 5 minute walk 19 Mar 23 1.08pm Send a Private Message to djcpfc Add djcpfc as a friend

Originally posted by dynamicdick

From a rumour I heard, so unsubstantiated, Derry read the team the riot act in the dressing room after the Everton debacle and this was something PV apparently didnít want to do.


I donít think that was a rumour.

It sounds a little old school, almost Warnockesque but when performances are awful it needs to be called.

I guess Derry being down the coaching pecking order meant it wasnít his place to be berating the players, and it does indicate it perhaps wasnít Patrickís way.

Given the situation weíre in Iím pleased heís at least an option in the coaching department given that itís looking like there isnít another manager about to take the reins. In the modern game there are a lot of back room positions to fill, and even if he is coming in temporarily to bridge the gap that has to be a good thing.

 

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