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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Online Flag 18 Mar 23 10.01pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

I see things are going well in the EU utopia of France. Surprised Steeleye hasn't reported it.

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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 18 Mar 23 11.07pm Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

Probably because it has precisely nothing to do with the EU as I would guess you are well aware.
That said, The French sure know how to demonstrate - I wonder how all that will work out with the King's pending visit?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Mar 23 5.13am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Much as macron is a dick imo I think he is protecting the future generations. I mean retire at 62 and get a state pension. Life expectancy has gone up considerably in the last twenty years and there is only so much tax dollars compared to expenditure. Especially now as we are slowly being kept alive forcibly !!!!
62 is really the new 50 ish when you look around the west.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 19 Mar 23 7.51am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

i have a sneaking respect for the French, as they always seem to do things properly. Even demonstrations aren't the half-@r5ed efforts you see in the UK (now restricted by Law).
The French always bring fire to a demonstration, which makes a good photo, and the buffets are very nice too.

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 19 Mar 23 9.57am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

The issue is not so much about the wisdom or not in these reforms but the fact that Macron forced them through against the wishes of the majority of the countries elected representatives.

That is why this story matters. Fascinating to read the framing of it in places like the BBC which is so Pro-Macron it might as be posing as a dark-skinned body guard.

And people who seem to be the most keen on retirement age being raised are invariably those who can retire any time they want.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Behind Enemy Lines's Profile Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 19 Mar 23 10.11am Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

The issue is not so much about the wisdom or not in these reforms but the fact that Macron forced them through against the wishes of the majority of the countries elected representatives.

That is why this story matters. Fascinating to read the framing of it in places like the BBC which is so Pro-Macron it might as be posing as a dark-skinned body guard.

And people who seem to be the most keen on retirement age being raised are invariably those who can retire any time they want.

Spot on, sir.

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 19 Mar 23 10.58am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

A Macron own goal in my opinion.

His lack of judgement shows he is on the way out.

The French, of course, are not just pathetic like us, if energy prices rocket they are on the streets and invariably they will come straight down.

This time Napoleon has prevailed, but the battleground is the French way of life.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 Mar 23 10.58am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Much as macron is a dick imo I think he is protecting the future generations. I mean retire at 62 and get a state pension. Life expectancy has gone up considerably in the last twenty years and there is only so much tax dollars compared to expenditure. Especially now as we are slowly being kept alive forcibly !!!!
62 is really the new 50 ish when you look around the west.

just 100 years ago, if people retired at 65, the vast majority were dead by 68.

The World has changed beyond all recognition. In the past, a fella was an adult working with a shovel at age 17. Often with his own home , wife and kids on the way. Today, the same fella lives with his parents at age 40 and will inherit when he is 50. And his mum could well make it to 92.

The mathematics of pensions is the tricky part. Which is why people in Africa have a dozen kids.....to mind them when they are elderly (55)

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Mar 23 11.01am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

The issue is not so much about the wisdom or not in these reforms but the fact that Macron forced them through against the wishes of the majority of the countries elected representatives.

That is why this story matters. Fascinating to read the framing of it in places like the BBC which is so Pro-Macron it might as be posing as a dark-skinned body guard.

And people who seem to be the most keen on retirement age being raised are invariably those who can retire any time they want.

Granted but being realistic how many years before pension wise you are a net taker.
Personally Iím a mid range earner so 30 or so years for me. Some are within 10 years.
Thatís with our retirement age. In France it must be younger and less years.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 Mar 23 11.09am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Granted but being realistic how many years before pension wise you are a net taker.
Personally Iím a mid range earner so 30 or so years for me. Some are within 10 years.
Thatís with our retirement age. In France it must be younger and less years.

you often see the 'oldest person on Earth' and typically its a French Lady (114) who remembers meeting Van Gogh.

 


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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Online Flag 19 Mar 23 11.24am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

you often see the 'oldest person on Earth' and typically its a French Lady (114) who remembers meeting Van Gogh.

That's just 'earsay.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 19 Mar 23 11.52am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

The issue in France is not the maths. Pensions are potentially going to destroy the West along with the wider question about are we actually enabling people to live to long thus absorbing huge amounts of national resources. A definite debate needs to be had.

But Macron chose to impose this on the French people. The much much bigger issue.

 


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