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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 22 Jan 24 9.40pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

If we were to be relegated, we would not suffer the dreaded VAR and it would be more enjoyable.

But knowing our luck, they would probably introduce it anyway.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 22 Jan 24 9.46pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

As PL matches can be decided off-pitch, and actually the PL itself, you may as well not bother, as the actual football played is superfluous.

That would save a lot of time. Bring back the pools panel to decide the scores then pay your money to sit in the ground and have the result read out.

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 11 Feb 24 11.54am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

More VAR nonsense yesterday at the Luton Sheffield game, two penalties for handball that were never pens in a hundred years but are this week ,joke decisions that would have been condemned had it not been one to each side .

 

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izardi Flag Carshalton 11 Feb 24 12.45pm Send a Private Message to izardi Add izardi as a friend

One thing that bothered me at the Sheff U match.
One of their players was clearly offside and the linesman didn't flag (as instructed). Keeper saves and the ref gives a corner. Those "marginal" offsides used to be routinely given by linesmen who, when rerun on match of the day etc, were only rarely wrong. The officials used to be very good at their job.

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 11 Feb 24 2.20pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by izardi

One thing that bothered me at the Sheff U match.
One of their players was clearly offside and the linesman didn't flag (as instructed). Keeper saves and the ref gives a corner. Those "marginal" offsides used to be routinely given by linesmen who, when rerun on match of the day etc, were only rarely wrong. The officials used to be very good at their job.

It was a flaw in the system that was picked up on its conception in no flag situations . You can't ref (with the help of the lino) half the game and get it all right . VAR has got more wrong than the ref /lino combination ever did .

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 26 Feb 24 4.23pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

So for the first time, v Burnley the game had four usually slow VAR calls for all 3 goals and their disallowed goal.
If I didn't know better, I would say that the VAR techies must have been hijacked by some Palace fans as all 4 decisions went our way!!
The idea of VAR was to eliminate any doubt and therefore mistakes. It totally fails to do either, so what is the point in having it.
I far preferred having a linesman stick his flag up or not for offside and the ref make a call on penalties, handballs, fouls etc etc.
The old way the game flowed. Decisions were instant as was the excitement around goals or disallowed goals.
Now, the crowd has to stand about waiting and waiting and waiting.
We had getting up towards 20 minutes extra time on Saturday.
They mess us up enough with changing days and times of games to suit Sky, then they keep us hanging about in the cold at matches.
Im fed up with ALL the football governing bodies in this country and internationally. They are making a pigs ear of our game.
Something needs to change.

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 27 Feb 24 7.11am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

So for the first time, v Burnley the game had four usually slow VAR calls for all 3 goals and their disallowed goal.
If I didn't know better, I would say that the VAR techies must have been hijacked by some Palace fans as all 4 decisions went our way!!
The idea of VAR was to eliminate any doubt and therefore mistakes. It totally fails to do either, so what is the point in having it.
I far preferred having a linesman stick his flag up or not for offside and the ref make a call on penalties, handballs, fouls etc etc.
The old way the game flowed. Decisions were instant as was the excitement around goals or disallowed goals.
Now, the crowd has to stand about waiting and waiting and waiting.
We had getting up towards 20 minutes extra time on Saturday.
They mess us up enough with changing days and times of games to suit Sky, then they keep us hanging about in the cold at matches.
Im fed up with ALL the football governing bodies in this country and internationally. They are making a pigs ear of our game.
Something needs to change.

Well said , echo's what many fans around the world think of it

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 31 Mar 24 10.07am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

A thing that has crept into the game that really gives me the hump is penalties being awarded when the striker initiates the contact .Both of Newcastles v the spammers were such yesterday .

Gordon was the player that 'won' the pens with what some would call clever play (I call it cheating) the first was given by the ref and not overturned which is just about acceptable . The second not given by the ref was by VAR . For me it was actually a foul by Gordon on Phillips

Just don't know what the VAR was looking at there .

And where was it at Chelsea , the Burnley defender was defending as required and gets sent off ! Meanwhile the all in wrestling at corners continues .

 

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stancummins Flag 31 Mar 24 10.41am Send a Private Message to stancummins Add stancummins as a friend

Actually thought certainly the second penalty should have been a free kick to West Ham , as Gordon impeded Philips , thought it was poor officiating from the VAR official and the ref bottled it with 50K geordies screaming at him

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Apr 24 9.05am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

So Forest threatening to take action after the Everton game. I must admit that none of the penalties looked stonewalled to me but then again I'm not sure what is a penalty these days.

However the Forest response was quite belligerent and this is not the first time this season, it seems to co-inside with them recruiting Clattenburg as a Ref Watch advisor.

Clattenburg seems upset over the standard of referring perhaps he should consider his own performance in the FA cup final, Mr Pot calling Mr Kettle.

The best thing Forest can do is to get rid of him and apologise.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Apr 24 9.16am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

So Forest threatening to take action after the Everton game. I must admit that none of the penalties looked stonewalled to me but then again I'm not sure what is a penalty these days.

However the Forest response was quite belligerent and this is not the first time this season, it seems to co-inside with them recruiting Clattenburg as a Ref Watch advisor.

Clattenburg seems upset over the standard of referring perhaps he should consider his own performance in the FA cup final, Mr Pot calling Mr Kettle.

The best thing Forest can do is to get rid of him and apologise.

A reference to a single game in the illustrious career of Mark Clattenburg who of course refereed in the Champions League final and the Euro 2016 final.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Apr 24 10.06am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

So Forest threatening to take action after the Everton game. I must admit that none of the penalties looked stonewalled to me but then again I'm not sure what is a penalty these days.

However the Forest response was quite belligerent and this is not the first time this season, it seems to co-inside with them recruiting Clattenburg as a Ref Watch advisor.

Clattenburg seems upset over the standard of referring perhaps he should consider his own performance in the FA cup final, Mr Pot calling Mr Kettle.

The best thing Forest can do is to get rid of him and apologise.

They'll never win any argument based on subjectivity. Accepting referees can make mistakes, or be unsighted, is one thing but VAR should have at least recommended the ref reviewed the incidents.
Their point about the VAR official being a Luton fan is very dubious. How would the FA schedule work if refs, linesmen and officials could only be involved in games which didn't impact the clubs in which they have an interest?

 

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