Gaza Strip 'invades' Israel.
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 eritheagle  Erith 07 Oct 23 3.42pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
And we are seeing the end game playing out now. Because if some of the unverified footage coming out is even half true, the backlash from Israel is going to be horrendous. I care not a jot for either side but I am convinced that it is Europe being set up to pay the price. This is truly the moment a lot of chickens start coming home to roost.
Many experts have said Putin wants to do it to destabilize Europe and cause unrest which will intern result in problems for the individual countries' governments and create a distraction for him to take advantage of in Ukraine etc.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 07 Oct 23 3.47pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
you ever heard of Wall Street ?
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| Stirlingsays 07 Oct 23 4.36pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
you ever heard of Wall Street ? It was there before their rise and they wouldn't be going anywhere.....even if the US radically changed policy....precisely because of the money. You only have to look at what the US spends on foreign nations to see where the bread is buttered. People aren't going to voluntarily give up meal tickets.....the real untold story is how it all got to this state.
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| georgenorman 07 Oct 23 5.02pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
An offensive from Palestine has been brewing for around a year. Not mentioned in mainstream news is the continual incursion/invasion into Palestinian territory and the deaths caused by Israeli soldiers. 'Excuse'? You expect Israel to just sit back and let it happen?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 07 Oct 23 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
'Excuse'? You expect Israel to just sit back and let it happen? Hamas are behind attacks on Israel and civilians pay the price. Israel has been steadily eroding Gaza and the West bank for decades. It is clearly their policy. Palestine will cease to exist at some point.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Oct 23 5.24pm |
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If you're Israel then allowing the existence of Hamas is similar to the British allowing the existence of the IRA.....essentially it means that you have continual low level war. They managed to reduce attacks significantly by building that wall (despite the left and Hamas saying it wouldn't) However, if an enemy wants to kill you it'll eventually find a way....all you can do is make it harder. If I were Israel I wouldn't countenance the existence of Hamas.....then again, if I were the British government I wouldn't have countenanced the existence of the IRA. You go to war, defeat or be defeated.....Or you give them what they want while kneeling as little as possible. The British essentially gave them what they wanted with the Good Friday Agreement....as much as they could with the unionists objecting. Israel isn't going to do that. Their last PM who tried quickly ended up on a slab. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Oct 2023 5.34pm)
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| Stirlingsays 07 Oct 23 5.30pm |
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As for the thinking with Hamas.....I think it's just hatred....they say it's started for retaliation for Israeli raids in the Al Aqsa Mosque, but whatever. As with Ukraine their only hope is in expanding the conflict. I don't really see this as how to do it. Building coalitions amongst the Arabs is the obvious method. Regardless of the thinking I abhor all the innocent deaths that come from this continual conflict. Breaking into homes and killing people is indefensible no matter who does it. The whole conflict is a scar on the world that was created and enabled post WW2. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Oct 2023 5.55pm)
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| Ouzo Dan 07 Oct 23 5.33pm |
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Blame already seems to be getting laid at Iran. Africa going to s***, middle east going to s***, war in Europe, China exerting it's dominance... Not looking good is it
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| Stirlingsays 07 Oct 23 5.36pm |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Blame already seems to be getting laid at Iran. Africa going to s***, middle east going to s***, war in Europe, China exerting it's dominance... Not looking good is it Just make sure you have your potassium iodide tablets and some reserve water.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 07 Oct 23 5.59pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If you're Israel then allowing the existence of Hamas is similar to the British allowing the existence of the IRA.....essentially it means that you have continual low level war. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Oct 2023 5.34pm) the greatest recruitment-agent for Hamas and the 'RA ? well, that will be genocidal actions from the other side. and i need not bother catalogue them, in both cases. In politics, the extremes of opposites feed off of each other. A violent Left will give birth to a violent Right. And so on......
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| Stirlingsays 07 Oct 23 6.23pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the greatest recruitment-agent for Hamas and the 'RA ? well, that will be genocidal actions from the other side. and i need not bother catalogue them, in both cases. In politics, the extremes of opposites feed off of each other. A violent Left will give birth to a violent Right. And so on......
As for Israel, I'd say their policy has been rather effective....they just chose the slow burn route. Anyone who looks at the demographic map changes over the years sees it....it's the old frog in the water routine. How we feel about the right and wrongs is something else....like everything else, all that matters in the end is the result. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Oct 2023 6.24pm)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 07 Oct 23 7.49pm |
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I don't see what the Palestine people will get out of this. I suppose all Hamas can do is hope to drag everyone else into their mess. Lots of civilians on both sides will die for nothing. The Israelis don't get a free pass from me but given the choice....
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