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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Oct 23 10.03pm

The Israeli PM says they are now at War, following the Hamas attack that killed more than 200.

And if the fight escalates, and goes global.....

who will fight on which side ?

A.
Russia
China
Iran
North Korea
Cuba
The Ashes of what is left of Palestine ( plus their sympathizers)

versus

B.
NATO
the EU
the British Commonwealth
Israel
Saudi Arabia
Taiwan
Japan
South Korea
Phillipines

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the above is surely fairly copper-fastened ? Thereafter , it gets complicated.

Morocco did a deal with Donald Trump to recognise Israel, and get Western Sahara. And Algeria doesn't like Morocco.

The Balkans.....all the old alliances are alive and well. Serbia with Russia. Croatia with the Germans.

China now owns much of Africa. But the old European powers can still cast a shadow, especially France.

Brazil has an affinity to Portugal. Not in NATO, but almost.

The rest of Latin America ? you tell me ?

The Islamic World seriously dislikes Israel. More than a billion people.

pakistan & India have more than just Cricket to fight over ?

Vlad Putin's refugee army into Lampedusa....still just the tip of the iceberg.

Would the Italians start the War on one side, and then flip-sides halfway ?

First Syria, then Ukraine, Nogorno-Karabakh, now Israel ....all looking scary.

Vlad Putin's thoughts on using Nukes ? The yanks did in 1945, so it already sets a precedent.

Will the Book of Revelations have us fighting a battle at Meggido, and all unable to buy or sell without a Bank Account ? Is Corona virus one of the Crowns mentioned in the book ? Wormwood ( Chernobyl) falling from the sky. Or is that all just superstitious hogwash ?

any thoughts ? observations ? or predictions ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (17 Jan 2024 10.47pm)

 


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monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 07 Oct 23 10.07pm

f*** me, you know how to cheer us all up don’t you?

 

YT Flag Oxford 07 Oct 23 10.27pm

Incidentally it's Revelation not Revelations

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Oct 23 11.12pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

The Israeli PM says they are now at War, following the Hamas attack that killed more than 200.

And if the fight escalates, and goes global.....

who will fight on which side ?

A.
Russia
China
Iran
North Korea


versus

B.
NATO
the EU
the British Commonwealth
Israel
Saudi Arabia
Taiwan
Japan
South Korea
Phillipines

-----------------------------

the above is surely fairly copper-fastened ? Thereafter , it gets complicated.

Morocco did a deal with Donald Trump to recognise Israel, and get Western Sahara. And Algeria doesn't like Morocco.

The Balkans.....all the old alliances are alive and well. Serbia with Russia. Croatia with the Germans.

China now owns much of Africa. But the old European powers can still cast a shadow, especially France.

Brazil has an affinity to Portugal. Not in NATO, but almost.

The Islamic World seriously dislikes Israel. More than a billion people.

pakistan & India have more than just Cricket to fight over ?

Vlad Putin's refugee army into Lampedusa....still just the tip of the iceberg.

Would the Italians start the War on one side, and then flip-sides halfway ?

First Syria, then Ukraine, Nogorno-Karabakh, now Israel ....all looking scary.

Vlad Putin's thoughts on using Nukes ? The yanks did in 1945, so it already sets a precedent.

Will the Book of Revelations have us fighting a battle at Meggido, and all unable to buy or sell without a Bank Account ? Is Corona virus one of the Crowns mentioned in the book ? Wormwood ( Chernobyl) falling from the sky. Or is that all just superstitious hogwash ?

any thoughts
? observations ? or predictions ?

Calm down.
Calm down.

WW3 could only end one way. We would all die.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 Oct 23 7.51am

Perhaps we should get Donald Trump to build a wall around the Middle East.

 


One more point

Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 08 Oct 23 8.11am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Calm down.
Calm down.

WW3 could only end one way. We would all die.

I honestly have no clue how far along Iran is with its Nuclear ambitions however themselves & North Korea would have no problem using them.

The Suwalki gap, Taiwan & I'll now add the Strait of Hormuz even Crimea are all places we should pay attention to.
I've been saying it for a while, there's no brakes on this train.

As for the original post on a purely selfish note I keep glancing south at Hungary, most of the southern part of Slovakia is inhabited by Hungarian Slovaks & isn't too dissimilar to the Sudetenland.
In a WW3 scenario whatever side Hungary ends up on depends on what Russia achieves with Ukraine.
SK relies far too much on NATO coming to the rescue & that would be it's undoing.

 


The mountains are calling & I must go.

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 08 Oct 23 8.35am

The Longstanding Divorce of Cuba from the rest of the Western World.

Maybe 1962 was only 'The First Cuban Missile Crisis' ? And maybe this time they will tell us about the Quid Pro Quo on Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles out of Turkey.

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An international Conflict would certainly generate Argy-Bargy within many countries.

Sinn Fein.....pro Palestine
DUP............pro Israel

Catalan Independence & the Basques.

The persecutions of Jews & Christians in many Islamic countries.

And the possibility of Civil War in France, Sweden, England and lots of other places in Western Europe ? Vlad Putin would love to Stoke it up.
The Russian October Revolution 1917 and the Dublin Easter Rising 1916 both had the fingerprints of overseas military aid. As did the Spanish Civil War.

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and then there is the madness of all the Financial Markets.

After the 1989 fall of the Soviet Union there was a social & economic collapse. A collapse of their entire society & economic system. The currency turned to shyte.

Could the same now happen in the West ? We all know the Western Financial system is balanced on a Black Hole of Debt. And that the credibility of Fiat currencies is at an all time low. The Wall Street Crash of October 1929 all coming back to haunt us ? which do you value most, your paper money or a barrel of Oil ?

The Napoleonic Wars sent Inflation off the , yet to be invented, Richter Scale. Are our current Elites unable to control inflation ?

History repeating itself in Eastern Europe. 3 maps. The Empires of Napoleon, Hitler, and NATO today. The first two didn't end well for the invaders. Russian soldiers descending on Paris & Berlin respectively. From whence the 1816 French invented a type of restaurant that serves food quickly to busy Russian soldiers....it took its name from the word for 'quicky quickly !'. A word screamed by hungry Cossacks while banging their sabres on the Paris dinner-tables 'Bistro Bistro !'

Edited by PalazioVecchio (08 Oct 2023 9.33am)

 


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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 08 Oct 23 10.01am

IMHO China would not back anyone in a strike, i also believe Russia will not use them, WW111 will start when Iran have the capability of launching a Nuclear missile into central Israel, they would do it in a heartbeat.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 Oct 23 10.38am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

IMHO China would not back anyone in a strike, i also believe Russia will not use them, WW111 will start when Iran have the capability of launching a Nuclear missile into central Israel, they would do it in a heartbeat.

And very quickly lose many of their own one might guess !

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Oct 23 11.16am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

IMHO China would not back anyone in a strike, i also believe Russia will not use them, WW111 will start when Iran have the capability of launching a Nuclear missile into central Israel, they would do it in a heartbeat.

Israel already have nukes. They would be committing suicide.

 

Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 08 Oct 23 12.34pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Israel already have nukes. They would be committing suicide.

Absolutely, but they think of religion and war, they wouldn't care one iota

 


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esox lucius Flag Deal 08 Oct 23 12.47pm

I’ll be alright, I still have my grandma’s gas mask from the last one.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 08 Oct 23 12.52pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

IMHO China would not back anyone in a strike, i also believe Russia will not use them, WW111 will start when Iran have the capability of launching a Nuclear missile into central Israel, they would do it in a heartbeat.

You hit on a genuine danger here.

Iran, won't launch nuclear at the moment because they don't have the capacity.

It's also true that they won't launch at Israel because of the Palestinians. At the end of the day they won't self destruct for someone else.

But it's a genuine concern that if they think they are being overthrown they will throw everything they have at their enemies.....Saddam did it at his own last grasp and he didn't even have much.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2023 12.54pm)

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 08 Oct 23 1.59pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Israel already have nukes. They would be committing suicide.

...and waking up in Heaven with a hundred Virgins ?

We can see from all the suicide bombers.....that their own life matters little to them.

Some hardliners would rather see the whole territory of Israel as an empty radioactive badlands.....than being a harmless desert belonging to the Jews.

Its a bit like Othello killing his wife...."if i cannot have her, then nobody else can have her neither"
With Othello simultaneously forfeiting his own life into the bargain.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (08 Oct 2023 2.26pm)

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Oct 23 10.26am

and so. Its either localised conflicts in Ukraine & Israel ?

or we have already passed the Gavril O'Princip moment ? Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand lies dying, and he will not be the last one.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Oct 23 10.36am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Absolutely, but they think of religion and war, they wouldn't care one iota

I think you will find that the leaders of Iran will be a bit less keen to meet their maker than their foot soldiers.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Oct 23 10.38am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

...and waking up in Heaven with a hundred Virgins ?

We can see from all the suicide bombers.....that their own life matters little to them.

Some hardliners would rather see the whole territory of Israel as an empty radioactive badlands.....than being a harmless desert belonging to the Jews.

Its a bit like Othello killing his wife...."if i cannot have her, then nobody else can have her neither"
With Othello simultaneously forfeiting his own life into the bargain.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (08 Oct 2023 2.26pm)

That's what they want you to think.

Only the truly dumb kill themselves to kill their enemy. I doubt you get to be in charge by being that stupid.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Oct 23 11.28am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That's what they want you to think.

Only the truly dumb kill themselves to kill their enemy. I doubt you get to be in charge by being that stupid.

sorry mate. You impune that i have an intellect as low as your own. My writing above was not 'my thought processes'. But it was written to illustrate the thought processes of historical nutters. A bit like the 9/11 terrorists. Or Queen Boudicca - picking a suicidal fight with somebody bigger than yourself.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Oct 23 11.35am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

sorry mate. You impune that i have an intellect as low as your own. My writing above was not 'my thought processes'. But it was written to illustrate the thought processes of historical nutters. A bit like the 9/11 terrorists. Or Queen Boudicca - picking a suicidal fight with somebody bigger than yourself.

Boudicca had a massive army against 20 k romans. Some say 10 x as many. The issue was they didn’t know how to fight the battle. Got wiped out and the romans lost less than 1000men. Pedant alert

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Oct 23 11.38am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

sorry mate. You impune that i have an intellect as low as your own. My writing above was not 'my thought processes'. But it was written to illustrate the thought processes of historical nutters. A bit like the 9/11 terrorists. Or Queen Boudicca - picking a suicidal fight with somebody bigger than yourself.

Do you mean imply?

I have no idea what your intellect is, but I don't think Iran will commit suicide to defeat Israel.
Boudica was fighting for her territory against invaders. A totally different scenario. She is more Hamas in this situation. They are attacking a force that is far stronger who is slowly invading their territory, knowing they cannot win.

 

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