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 Stirlingsays Online  08 Oct 23 12.52pm |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
IMHO China would not back anyone in a strike, i also believe Russia will not use them, WW111 will start when Iran have the capability of launching a Nuclear missile into central Israel, they would do it in a heartbeat. You hit on a genuine danger here. Iran, won't launch nuclear at the moment because they don't have the capacity. It's also true that they won't launch at Israel because of the Palestinians. At the end of the day they won't self destruct for someone else. But it's a genuine concern that if they think they are being overthrown they will throw everything they have at their enemies.....Saddam did it at his own last grasp and he didn't even have much. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2023 12.54pm)
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 08 Oct 23 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Israel already have nukes. They would be committing suicide. ...and waking up in Heaven with a hundred Virgins ? We can see from all the suicide bombers.....that their own life matters little to them. Some hardliners would rather see the whole territory of Israel as an empty radioactive badlands.....than being a harmless desert belonging to the Jews. Its a bit like Othello killing his wife...."if i cannot have her, then nobody else can have her neither" Edited by PalazioVecchio (08 Oct 2023 2.26pm)
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 09 Oct 23 10.26am |
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and so. Its either localised conflicts in Ukraine & Israel ? or we have already passed the Gavril O'Princip moment ? Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand lies dying, and he will not be the last one.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Oct 23 10.36am |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Absolutely, but they think of religion and war, they wouldn't care one iota I think you will find that the leaders of Iran will be a bit less keen to meet their maker than their foot soldiers.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Oct 23 10.38am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
...and waking up in Heaven with a hundred Virgins ? We can see from all the suicide bombers.....that their own life matters little to them. Some hardliners would rather see the whole territory of Israel as an empty radioactive badlands.....than being a harmless desert belonging to the Jews. Its a bit like Othello killing his wife...."if i cannot have her, then nobody else can have her neither" Edited by PalazioVecchio (08 Oct 2023 2.26pm) That's what they want you to think. Only the truly dumb kill themselves to kill their enemy. I doubt you get to be in charge by being that stupid.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 09 Oct 23 11.28am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That's what they want you to think. Only the truly dumb kill themselves to kill their enemy. I doubt you get to be in charge by being that stupid. sorry mate. You impune that i have an intellect as low as your own. My writing above was not 'my thought processes'. But it was written to illustrate the thought processes of historical nutters. A bit like the 9/11 terrorists. Or Queen Boudicca - picking a suicidal fight with somebody bigger than yourself.
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cryrst Online  The garden of England 09 Oct 23 11.35am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
sorry mate. You impune that i have an intellect as low as your own. My writing above was not 'my thought processes'. But it was written to illustrate the thought processes of historical nutters. A bit like the 9/11 terrorists. Or Queen Boudicca - picking a suicidal fight with somebody bigger than yourself. Boudicca had a massive army against 20 k romans. Some say 10 x as many. The issue was they didn’t know how to fight the battle. Got wiped out and the romans lost less than 1000men. Pedant alert
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Oct 23 11.38am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
sorry mate. You impune that i have an intellect as low as your own. My writing above was not 'my thought processes'. But it was written to illustrate the thought processes of historical nutters. A bit like the 9/11 terrorists. Or Queen Boudicca - picking a suicidal fight with somebody bigger than yourself. Do you mean imply? I have no idea what your intellect is, but I don't think Iran will commit suicide to defeat Israel.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Oct 23 11.41am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Boudicca had a massive army against 20 k romans. Some say 10 x as many. The issue was they didn’t know how to fight the battle. Got wiped out and the romans lost less than 1000men. Pedant alert That's a fair point. She might well have fancied her chances given the numbers and been oblivious to the might of Rome. Who knows.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 09 Oct 23 11.52am |
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Boudica was fully aware of the might of Rome. And Hamas/Iran are fully aware of the military might of Israel and their american backers. History has loads of suicidal eejits....smarting for a fight. With little appreciation or understanding of the ramifications.
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| silvertop Portishead 09 Oct 23 12.29pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think you will find that the leaders of Iran will be a bit less keen to meet their maker than their foot soldiers. And that's the point. All this virgins in heaven stuff is fed to the grunts by those who would not dream of strapping bombs to themselves. Iran is just an extended version of that... And actually it isn't. Iran effectively has 2 regimes. The one Revolutionary Guard we all associate with that basket case nation who effectively administer repression, beard length etc.; and the other "normal" government responsible for health care and emptying the bins. From recent reports, the balance is shifting away from the former to the latter as is normal in post revolutionary worlds. And as Stirling says, they are not going to nuke their Shiite Palestinian brothers. Nor is Israel going to nuke them. Israel have had that rabid, frothing nutter in charge for heaven knows how long. If they wanted to, they would have. It's M.A.D. insurance for both sides. On which, I would be astonished if the Saudis didn't have the Bomb.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 Oct 23 12.56pm |
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What we need is a globe trotting FIFA World Cup to sort this all out.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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