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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 27 Oct 23 11.54pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

My recall was that when we pressed them at 1-0 down they played through us and scored. Game over.

If we don't get the first goal against and opponent like that we're done.

To be fielding a side so lacking in attacking guile after ten years in the Premier League isn't great.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (27 Oct 2023 11.56pm)

 

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View Romford-Eagle's Profile Romford-Eagle Flag Romford 27 Oct 23 11.55pm Send a Private Message to Romford-Eagle Add Romford-Eagle as a friend

Time for Roy to move aside, the difference in quality was embarrassing, the flicks and the movement from Spurs made us look like a pub team, we even made Ayew look good, as for Ward, words fail me.

Time to get a young progressive manager in, and no not Mr Woke Southgate...

 

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View Hannes's Profile Hannes Flag Vienna 28 Oct 23 12.02am Send a Private Message to Hannes Add Hannes as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace


Not sure. Seems like he's lost the plot this evening though.

Blaming the young players is unforgivable IMO. Rak-Sak has been one of our better players in recent weeks. Franca playing his first minutes in English football after an injury. Ahamada has barely had a chance.

The thing about Roy is that despite the negative, boring football he's always had a bit of credit in the bank for being regarded as a gent. Tonight perhaps the mask has slipped a bit.

Maybe he was just as dissapointed as some of us after a good performance in the first half, threw away his composure for a few minutes and said some words he already regrets. Not unforgiveable IMO, just human.

 

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View Palacesince64's Profile Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 28 Oct 23 12.06am Send a Private Message to Palacesince64 Add Palacesince64 as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Unacceptable comment on the subs who I thought did okay.
Getting bored with Roy ball again and to think we likely have Gareth ball to come.
I love Palace but am genuinely not sure how much more dross I can stomach.
I would rather lose giving it a go to be honest and his treatment of Richards is unfathomable.
A lot 20 something who is fitter,faster, stronger and so on than Ward cannot get on the pitch?
Piss poor management and maybe time to move on after tonight.
This is not a pant wetting rant - to those that will say it is.
I want to be entertained as well as support us and see us strive to get better.
We are going backwards

He did well after PV made a balls of it but his master stroke was playing Eze and Olise together. At the time I thought it was brilliant but weíre suffering the consequences this season. There are no surprises with Royís team selection so the opposition know exactly what to expect. The only surprises tonight were that he actually brought on a few subs albeit too late and that he was such a grumpy old git in his post match interviews. Seems like someone rattled his cage this evening but his rants were self indulgent and unhelpful. Hopefully this is his last season.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 28 Oct 23 12.12am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

He's probably got the hump about the lack of backing in the summer and given the constant clamour from fans to play young players who've clearly not been good enough it's hardly surprising he's getting a bit pissed off.

That was a sh1t line up tonight for a team that's been in the league as long as us (and I'm sorry to say it) but Rak-Sakyi and and Franca were rubbish when they came on.

 

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View Oysterman's Profile Oysterman Flag Coulsdon 28 Oct 23 12.13am Send a Private Message to Oysterman Add Oysterman as a friend

Feel quite low tonight first half we looked in it second half we went to pieces after own goal and Roy to say we looked worse with subs on seemed pointless thing to say
Getting grumpy in his senior years

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne 28 Oct 23 12.39am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Oysterman

Feel quite low tonight first half we looked in it second half we went to pieces after own goal and Roy to say we looked worse with subs on seemed pointless thing to say
Getting grumpy in his senior years

A bit of Dejavu from spurs at home last season, but not quite as bad in the end.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne 28 Oct 23 12.44am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Itís just so frustrating how we stopped having a go second half, sitting there watching them passing it across the back. Although still frustrating, because they were there for the taking after our first half performance, I can sort of understand it at 0-0, but once we were 0-2 and have nothing to lose we should be getting stuck in and try to off load them, Romero to the keeper, Keeper back to Romero, and repeat FFS

 

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag London 28 Oct 23 12.44am Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Disgraceful comments

I think played ok

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 28 Oct 23 12.48am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Agree with most of whatís been said.

Just to vent a bit, I very rarely if ever leave early however tonight I really did feel quite dismal about everything, that with a general knackeredness and desire to get home in any instance, had an awful drive there and long week anyway.

The players out there did look like a shoestring side doing their best to pass as a PL team. Seemed like a Ďcup XIí in many ways. I think SJ, MG,JA,JL and CD is a solid spine but we looked weak at full back (thought I thought Mitchell played well so only on Wardís side) and offered hardly anything going forward, masked slightly by Ayewís typically dogged and industrious performance which makes those who werenít effective look even worse.

Having Roy then (apparently) show little regard if not disdain for the post match interview and throw the youngsters under the bus is even more concerning.

A real toys out the pram rant for me would include the OG, the lack of players we have/brought in, the general quality of those making up the numbers and the dragging of Roy out of retirement to equally drag us through another non-event of a season, hopefully scraping by without getting relegated. Iím not really in the mood nor do I think the context is too dramatic: losses to Moneybags, highflying Newcastle and a top of the league Spurs, but the general feeling is a concerning one. We always pride ourselves and take faith in being a scrappy unit, from our less glamorous corner of the capital, often conjuring shocks and getting by whatever the weather, with a real flair player or two thrown in. Roy has been a figurehead of this. Tonight however itís not so much the result, itís the feeling of a management team perhaps not wanting to be there, a lack of identity in the squad and a weak performance more reminiscent of a newly promoted team than an established PL side, which is what we are.

Thatís just a bit off my chest but Iíve not felt this unenthusiastic about Palace for some time, and it is that, not some hysterical, over-emotional whine.

My word we could do with a result against Burnley, Iím dreading to think what the story will be if we donít.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Living In Hope's Profile Living In Hope Flag Petersfield 28 Oct 23 12.50am Send a Private Message to Living In Hope Add Living In Hope as a friend

First visit to Selhurst Park this season, and sadly my worst fears about how we would look without Eze and Olise were realised.

I am quite surprised about some of the comments on here. I thought we were, as expected with no flair players, a very limited team who worked incredibly hard to stifle a far superior opposition for a chunk of the game. Maybe those describing it as a good performance for quite a while were allowing for just how unbalanced our team is currently - I don't know but for me we were relegation material all the way, and Spurs would have never forgiven themselves if they had failed to win.

Even a Royball team needs someone who is comfortable on the ball further up the pitch, and the ability to break with pace and a bit of skill. The starting line-up just doesn't have that, much as they put in a massive effort.

I didn't hear Roy's interview, but if he did criticise the subs, that was out of order. He unbalanced the team the other way around when we had Rak-Sakyi, Franca and Ahamada on for Schlupp, Lerma and Hughes, and if I am not mistaken, the starting eleven were 2-0 down and we won 1-0 with the subs.

As pretty much every game I have seen since the pandemic, Andersen and Guehi were our best players, and absolute quality, but we have a big problem when Andersen is the most likely to create a goal. As for the subs, I thought Ahamada did quite well. I hope it was nerves affecting Franca, who was truly awful, with his short performance including a terrible misplaced pass, a corner floated straight out of play, and the dreadfully fluffed chance at the end.

So not a lot to cheer about - with this line-up we will do well to get anything even against the worst teams in the league, though with Eze and Olise back, we will be a completely different proposition.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 28 Oct 23 1.00am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Living In Hope

First visit to Selhurst Park this season, and sadly my worst fears about how we would look without Eze and Olise were realised.

I am quite surprised about some of the comments on here. I thought we were, as expected with no flair players, a very limited team who worked incredibly hard to stifle a far superior opposition for a chunk of the game. Maybe those describing it as a good performance for quite a while were allowing for just how unbalanced our team is currently - I don't know but for me we were relegation material all the way, and Spurs would have never forgiven themselves if they had failed to win.

Even a Royball team needs someone who is comfortable on the ball further up the pitch, and the ability to break with pace and a bit of skill. The starting line-up just doesn't have that, much as they put in a massive effort.

I didn't hear Roy's interview, but if he did criticise the subs, that was out of order. He unbalanced the team the other way around when we had Rak-Sakyi, Franca and Ahamada on for Schlupp, Lerma and Hughes, and if I am not mistaken, the starting eleven were 2-0 down and we won 1-0 with the subs.

As pretty much every game I have seen since the pandemic, Andersen and Guehi were our best players, and absolute quality, but we have a big problem when Andersen is the most likely to create a goal. As for the subs, I thought Ahamada did quite well. I hope it was nerves affecting Franca, who was truly awful, with his short performance including a terrible misplaced pass, a corner floated straight out of play, and the dreadfully fluffed chance at the end.

So not a lot to cheer about - with this line-up we will do well to get anything even against the worst teams in the league, though with Eze and Olise back, we will be a completely different proposition.

Agree with most of that there. I didnít stay long enough to watch much of Franca but it doesnít sound great. Glad Ahamada played well, Iím quietly a big fan of his and want to see more of him.

It can actually be hard to identify whether we just donít have the personnel (without Ebz and Olise) or whether itís the often referenced ĎRoyballí or both.

Iím convinced Roy plays for the 0-0 against clubs expected to be in the top half, and that always opens the possibility for a win if we nab a goal. Tonight we actually had the better chances and completely suffocated them first half, we executed a good game plan IMHO. When that first goal was hammered home by Ward though it felt like an immediate ĎGame Overí, or maybe thatís just me.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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