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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Dec 23 10.50am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Even poor players have the odd good game. If he continues to do well then it'll be a bonus - but I wouldn't bank on it.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag The garden of England 17 Dec 23 11.09am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Now eduard is injured he may actually believe he can make it his role. When he knows heís back on the bench every other time no matter what it canít be very inspiring.

 

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View EaglesEaglesEagles's Profile EaglesEaglesEagles Flag 17 Dec 23 12.42pm Send a Private Message to EaglesEaglesEagles Add EaglesEaglesEagles as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Yesterday, Mateta did everything that you want from him.

He harried defenders and chased the ball down. Held the ball up and linked play. Scored.

Great stuff.

The question I was left with was why hasn't he be doing this before ?

Lots of good points here.
In answer to the question, I think that both Mateta and Edouard have really improved their hold up play due to dedicated and relentless coaching in this area. Neither had a clue how to hold it up last year but both strikers across their appearances vs West Ham, Liverpool and Man City have retained possession and fed the ball on to team mates really impressively and against good defenders.

 


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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 17 Dec 23 12.51pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

He is a very rangy individual, think Peter Crouch,he is not Crouches standard but has that Daddy Long legs in a hurry and determined to fall over his own feet,defenders don't know what he is doing and neither does he.As we have no other option let's hope he takes his chance.This injury crisis might have a silver lining and throw up a few gems.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 17 Dec 23 2.30pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Whatever we are feeding Mateta, we need to keep it up. He looked slimmer, fitter, faster and more skilful than Ive ever seen him. Just hope that Foden atrocity foul didn't damage him. Modern day shin pads clearly work.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Dec 23 4.18pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Ha ! I knew I'd get that response !

Ok, ask yourself if he's produced that kind of performance when he has started. Because I must have missed it.


One of his problems is that he hasn't been given a run of games. These are his starting stats since he's been with us and goals scored when he's started.

20/21 2 starts; a poor performance in a loss at Leeds and THAT goal at the Amex

21/22 13 starts with 5 goals and 1 assist. Longest starting run was 4

22/23 6 starts 0 goals or assists longest starting run was 3.

23/24 4 starts 1 goal longest starting run is 3.

Basically he hasn't been given a run in the team.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 17 Dec 23 4.25pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


One of his problems is that he hasn't been given a run of games. These are his starting stats since he's been with us and goals scored when he's started.

20/21 2 starts; a poor performance in a loss at Leeds and THAT goal at the Amex

21/22 13 starts with 5 goals and 1 assist. Longest starting run was 4

22/23 6 starts 0 goals or assists longest starting run was 3.

23/24 4 starts 1 goal longest starting run is 3.

Basically he hasn't been given a run in the team.

I think for good reason.

He's rarely displayed any quality when he has played - selections should be earned and I don't think he's been doing enough to make the manager want to give him a run in the team.

Yesterday may have been a turning point. That was a performance that can't be ignored. Needs to do it regularly now...

 


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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 17 Dec 23 10.20pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

He is way better than Edouarde.
He knows where the goal is and is better at holding the ball up and is happy to sniff half chances.
He just needs a fun in the team.
He won and scored last week's pen; he should have seen the keeper sent off yesterday after not backing out of a dreadful challenge; he scored a goal and won the pen for the equaliser.
Not a bad return.

You forgot the 'in my opinion' bit.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 18 Dec 23 7.21am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Roy has clearly never fancied him. He barely played him after he was signed and then since he's returned he's only been getting cameos once Eduoard is tired out from walking too much. It's possible he's a player who does better when they start as they need time to find their way into a game. Other players are better coming on and making an impact. It doesn't help that Mateta looks like he's knackered every time he runs ten feet. His first touch and hold up play were massively improved on Saturday compared to most games this season where the ball has just bounced off him. It's almost certain he'll start on Thursday so he'll get another chance to prove he should be starting. I like him as a personality so I really hope he does continue this form.

Edit: This popped up as a memory on my socials. Who remembers this satire that did the rounds back when? Mateta can probably relate!

"Dear Jonas,
It is with great pride and joy I am writing you this letter today. I have been informed by reliable sources that I am the captain, and first choice striker on your fantasy-team.
I know I don't score goals, or produce many assists or get to come on much at all. Therefore it is with great pleasure I register that people still believe in me those 15 times I have been on the pitch this year.
You and all my biggest fans, mom and dad, are my inspiration in continuing my performances for Crystal Palace and the Norwegian national team. You are the ones I think of when Iím on the pitch for five minutes in every other match. I donít think too much about my playing time. And since I donít get too much time on the ball I donít need to think about it either. Therefore I can just wander around on the pitch, look up to the stands, and wonder if youíre in the stands cheering me on.
Jonas. I hope you will come and see me warm up sometime during the season. Iíll talk to Hodgson and see to that Iíll be running up and down the sideline for a long time so that you can see me in action when you come to London.
I canít get you free tickets. Only the best lads get. But Iíve talked to Edna at the Popcorn-corner, and sheíll give you a 15 % discount on a bucket of popcorn.
Send me a message on Facebook if youíre travelling to England.
Your friend, captain, and striker.
Alexander SÝrloth
"

Edited by taylors lovechild (18 Dec 2023 9.00am)

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 18 Dec 23 9.02am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

IMO our issue is that we have 2 strikers that are pretty decent finishers, but don't always contribute a huge amount else.

OE is better technically, but JMP is a bit more 'chaos'.

Whilst JMP frustrates the hell out of me, I'd personally start him over OE. He always shoots early vs OE often getting dispossessed whilst winding up.

Not sure on OE's injury, but hope JMP gets a bit of a run now

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 18 Dec 23 9.22am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Without going too overboard, I think Mateta's performance on Saturday was the best I've seen from a Palace line leading forward for some years now.

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 18 Dec 23 9.34am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Yesterday, Mateta did everything that you want from him.

He harried defenders and chased the ball down. Held the ball up and linked play. Scored.

Great stuff.

The question I was left with was why hasn't he be doing this before ?

I get the feeling he is rangy and needs space like a High Plains beast. Play him against a team like us who defend compact and in numbers and then you may see the Mateta we know and don't like that much.

 

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