You are here: Home > Message Board > Palace Talk > Mateta
July 23 2024 6.10am

Mateta

Previous Topic | Next Topic


Page 6 of 14 < 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 >

 

View Peter de Lisle's Profile Peter de Lisle Flag London 29 Jan 24 5.02pm Send a Private Message to Peter de Lisle Add Peter de Lisle as a friend

Given the limitations of our current squad I am surprised we never start both Edouard and Mateta up front. They both look slightly lost as a lone striker playing a version of 4-5-1, and the few times I've seen them play together they've looked like they have an understanding between them and offer more outlets to those in midfield for getting the ball up the pitch. We might let in a few more if you sacrificed one defensive midfielder (Richards ideally, who, poor lad, looks very lost in midfield) to play the two of them up front, but I for one think we'd win more games with them both up on the pitch.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 29 Jan 24 5.40pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I wouldn’t be averse to starting them together in some games or for using them together for periods of games.
I suppose to Roy’s mind it could jeopardise his beloved team shape, but sometimes it’s worth taking a few risks in particular when performances and results are poor.

On the subject of Mateta, if Edouard starts tomorrow it may indicate there is some truth to the rumours of Mateta’s potential departure.
If there’s a likely move afoot on the following deadline day I don’t see how he can be in the right state of mind to start .

Originally posted by Peter de Lisle

Given the limitations of our current squad I am surprised we never start both Edouard and Mateta up front. They both look slightly lost as a lone striker playing a version of 4-5-1, and the few times I've seen them play together they've looked like they have an understanding between them and offer more outlets to those in midfield for getting the ball up the pitch. We might let in a few more if you sacrificed one defensive midfielder (Richards ideally, who, poor lad, looks very lost in midfield) to play the two of them up front, but I for one think we'd win more games with them both up on the pitch.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Goalpost1's Profile Goalpost1 Flag Worcester Park 29 Jan 24 5.45pm Send a Private Message to Goalpost1 Add Goalpost1 as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Indeed.

I think most of us would consider £20mil for JPM representative of good business however are probably imagining that money will be used to buy a better/more suitable player to replace him. My doubting of that is high, we're still on course to sign nobody despite our troubles...

For £20m I'd drive him to Leverkusen myself!

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 29 Jan 24 5.52pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Originally posted by Goalpost1

For £20m I'd drive him to Leverkusen myself!

Even for £15 million I'd sub his air-fare. Has no future with us, don't know what we saw in him. Hustle and bustle but little skill or heading ability.

Must be someone in the U21s who could perform better (when the manager retires obviously) or now in the Championship.

 


Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 29 Jan 24 6.41pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I wouldn’t be averse to starting them together in some games or for using them together for periods of games.
I suppose to Roy’s mind it could jeopardise his beloved team shape, but sometimes it’s worth taking a few risks in particular when performances and results are poor.

On the subject of Mateta, if Edouard starts tomorrow it may indicate there is some truth to the rumours of Mateta’s potential departure.
If there’s a likely move afoot on the following deadline day I don’t see how he can be in the right state of mind to start .


I have thought about the two playing together and then lumping on at the bookies for relegation.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Houston Eagle's Profile Houston Eagle Flag Houston 29 Jan 24 6.58pm Send a Private Message to Houston Eagle Add Houston Eagle as a friend

2 wrongs rarely make a right, but sometimes desperate measures are needed!

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 30 Jan 24 7.13am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Despite our differing opinions on JPM, it is fair to say that if we sold him then we would not buy a replacement and then we would be in an even worse position.
I reckon a decent run will see him do a good job for us with the right service.
If Edouard starts tonight then that says more about Roy than Edouard.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 30 Jan 24 7.21am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

He disappears in games, but not as much as Edouard, whose name wasn’t even mentioned in the Arsenal game he was that bad! If Mateta could win a header then we might have a player, but let’s be honest we have two duds!

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 30 Jan 24 8.37am Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Goalpost1

For £20m I'd drive him to Leverkusen myself!

Me too!

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Eagle Ray's Profile Eagle Ray Flag Loughborough 30 Jan 24 8.43am Send a Private Message to Eagle Ray Add Eagle Ray as a friend

For £20m we should definitely be selling......but only if we have a replacement lined up!

and lets face it, our usual speed at signing players in positions we need is 12-18 months

 


Palace and proud since 89

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne 30 Jan 24 8.44am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Goalpost1

For £20m I'd drive him to Leverkusen myself!

Don’t expect the petrol money from Parish though

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 30 Jan 24 11.07am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

I think it would be to the benefit of both Mateta and Edouard if they got to play up top together. The question is, would it be to the benefit of the team?

Even if you include the big teams, very few teams play with two out-and-out forwards in a 442 in the premier league (maybe none at all?), so it's not like Roy is unique in any way in preferring to play with one forward. Plainly, most top coaches believe they are better off with the extra midfielder. Even if we had two good strikers, playing them both would be a risk almost nobody else takes.

In our case, we would be using two forwards in the hope that by playing both of them we might compensate for the poor quality and weaknesses of both. Neither is good enough on their own, so by playing both we might actually carry the threat that one good forward carries.

It would be almost like playing with ten men, except we would have 11 on the field.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply

 

Page 6 of 14 < 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 >

Previous Topic | Next Topic

You are here: Home > Message Board > Palace Talk > Mateta