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View DenTyler's Profile DenTyler Flag Sidcup 27 Dec 23 9.55pm Send a Private Message to DenTyler Add DenTyler as a friend

Any other team in the league would have made changes earlier because it was clear Chelsea were piling on the pressure.
Any other team would make room for there £20 million pound forward in our situation (lack of depth in the squad). He has not looked bad the last couple of fleeting glimpses we’ve seen.
Any other team would change management after this run.
Roy has done a job but looks lost now. The game has passed him by. The thing that he had once was making us a tough side to play. Tight and hard to beat. That has long gone.

I find it almost offensive how the clubs transfer policy has been managed over the last few season. No forward momentum and actually not even stable. Actually going backwards and fast.
At what point does SP realise our premiership is in serious trouble and do what he has to do. Right now is that time. Excluding the FA cup game (which Roy would never take seriously) we have a big gap between Brentford and Arsenal and then another 10 days until Sheffield united. Change things now and give somebody some time to look at what we have and what we need and then back them in the window.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 27 Dec 23 9.56pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

By refusing to make substitutions when needed, Hodgson is running his chosen few into the ground, and that's why our injuries are so bad. Those same knackered players will start again versus Brentford on Saturday, and I expect the same result. What he expects Franca to do in the few minutes he's played I don't know.

What has it come to when you don't really expect to beat Brentford at home ?

 

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View davehuggins's Profile davehuggins Flag 27 Dec 23 9.58pm Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

It is time for change NOW

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 27 Dec 23 10.01pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Hodgson has to go for the better of the club and Parish has some hard choices to make.

 

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View SpyroCrystal's Profile SpyroCrystal 27 Dec 23 10.01pm Send a Private Message to SpyroCrystal Add SpyroCrystal as a friend

We are in deep trouble. Parish will have to act and in the summer will be Judgement day throughout transfer window ... that is if we stay up!

 


Big up the Palace!!!!

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View Brinscalleagle2's Profile Brinscalleagle2 Flag Brinscall 27 Dec 23 10.03pm Send a Private Message to Brinscalleagle2 Add Brinscalleagle2 as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

On the assumption you’re correct, this is so telling and well done for digging out.

We need players and a new manager. Personally, I would rather the former but if nothing changes I can’t see any way but south for us. That game was not only possible to get a point from but there for the taking. I think they made four subs before we made one. Just waiting for somebody to do something outside of any managerial influence is just backwards and beyond insane when we concede like we do.

Nothing will change if nothing changes.

The only thing I would say to that is the reason they made the changes before us is because we put them in a position that they needed to change because we were causing them problems. The issue is they have the players of a quality to influence the game we don’t. Ayew was changed because we cant afford not to have him if he got a card. We just need more quality players.COYP

 

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View Kenteagle80's Profile Kenteagle80 Flag Kent 27 Dec 23 10.04pm Send a Private Message to Kenteagle80 Add Kenteagle80 as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

2 games on the bounce that Ayew should never have been taken off.

I thought we actually played decent enough tonight. Richards was excellent.

Penalty was just unlucky but the argument is that Eze should have been subbed before that. He had a poor game.

Agree with the above, is it possible Ayew was injured? I can’t see why we would sub him when eze was missing. He doesn’t seem fully fit yet eze.
Mitchell had a tough but good game, olise worked hard.

Schlup and Franca should have come in sooner for tired legs.

Man we are difficult to watch these days, long season for us

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards robdave2k Flag 27 Dec 23 10.05pm

Pulis got a tune out of a far worse squad. Roy couldn’t get a tune out of England.

Yes we need better players, but let’s not pretend the tactics would change.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Dec 23 10.06pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by DenTyler

Any other team in the league would have made changes earlier because it was clear Chelsea were piling on the pressure.
Any other team would make room for there £20 million pound forward in our situation (lack of depth in the squad). He has not looked bad the last couple of fleeting glimpses we’ve seen.
Any other team would change management after this run.
Roy has done a job but looks lost now. The game has passed him by. The thing that he had once was making us a tough side to play. Tight and hard to beat. That has long gone.

I find it almost offensive how the clubs transfer policy has been managed over the last few season. No forward momentum and actually not even stable. Actually going backwards and fast.
At what point does SP realise our premiership is in serious trouble and do what he has to do. Right now is that time. Excluding the FA cup game (which Roy would never take seriously) we have a big gap between Brentford and Arsenal and then another 10 days until Sheffield united. Change things now and give somebody some time to look at what we have and what we need and then back them in the window.

At this moment in time, I share these thoughts and sentiments. We are not in good shape right now, it’s a bad time.

Roy has a singular style, plan, approach… whatever you want to call it, and it’s not working and looks more outdated than it ever has done.

Parish has kept us up for some time now and much of that has involved making difficult decisions and taking action when necessary. Either we release funds for players and/or bring in a manager who will give us a fighting chance soon. Failure to do either of these will at best leave us fighting a relegation battle, if not just propping up those that are.

I reckon he’ll wait til Brentford and see what that brings. They’re in trouble themselves at the moment with many injuries so I can’t decide whether I’d rather lose to them for the change catalyst or would just desperately take any three points now. Less than that would surely be the final straw?

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View DenTyler's Profile DenTyler Flag Sidcup 27 Dec 23 10.09pm Send a Private Message to DenTyler Add DenTyler as a friend

Have you seen Roy’s post match interview. He is delusional. He thinks we played well. Eze was fine and we tore Into Chelsea more than they did us.

I am now fully convinced he is the problem. If he thinks things are ok and more worryingly he thinks we are playing well we are doomed.

He is also really arrogant when interviewed, same as after the England job. Not his fault blah blah.

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 27 Dec 23 10.09pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

It's as simple as this, Roy needs to go.

His in game management is shocking and precisely why we keep conceding late goals, because he refuses to make substitutions. IF he doesn't trust our bench then he shouldn't have told us how happy we should all be with the squad after the transfer window closed, which was patently bollocks.

Tonight was a tired player, who has barely played due to injury, making a tired challenge and giving away a penalty. I don't blame Eze at all, I blame Roy.

Supporting Palace just feels like groundhog day under him, it was awful last time and it's awful this time too. If we're going to go down I'd rather it was having a go than with this turgid, miserable football.


We concede at the end because our lack of fitness it has been clear for years.

Doesn't help when you play negative football either allowing crosses to keep being pumped into the box.

The issue is people dont want the job and the ones that do are no better (WHy would any quality manager want to come to bargain basement club which has players running to chairman with hurt feelings)

 


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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 27 Dec 23 10.10pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

I understand the frustration, yes and maybe Roy could have made earlier changes from the bench, but then we have to be honest there is not much on there to choose from on there and the reality is we have very few players who are good enough to play at this level, that is not his fault. The decision to bring Roy back was frankly, I fear, because he was probably the only one that was prepared to accept the job with a virtually zero transfer budget. Sadly no decent Manager will want this job whilst we have a board who think they can do everything on a prayer and fresh air. As it stands it looks highly unlikely that we will survive this year which another reason why we will not attract any good players in the next window or a proven quality Manager. It is what it is and SP is ultimately the person who has to shoulder the blame!

 

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