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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 06 Feb 24 9.15am Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

We're a shambles and it's about as depressing as I can remember at the moment. So I decided to try and be positive and look for reasons that we'll be safe. Here's what I came up with.

1) 5 points clear. The obvious one but despite our wretched form, many of the teams below us are in a bad way too. Realistically another 10/12 points from our final 15 games will probably be enough and, as bad as we are, we're averaging more than that per game.

2) 6 teams competing for one spot. Sheff Utd are basically down, aren't they? And the same can be said for Burnley who are seven points from safety. Realistically it is probably between Fulham, us, Brentford, Forest, Luton and Everton for that last spot. We only need to finish above one of them.

3) Points deductions. The possibility of points deductions to Everton and or Forest could be enough to finish one of them off at a key point to the season.

4) Upcoming fixtures. Here are the next fixtures for the clubs in the mire.

Palace: Chelsea, Everton, Burnley, Spurs, Luton, Newcastle
Fulham: Bournemouth, Villa, United, Brighton, Wolves, Tottenham
Brentford: Wolves, Liverpool, Man City, West Ham, Chelsea, Arsenal
Forest: Newcastle, West Ham, Villa, Liverpool, Brighton, Luton
Luton: Sheff Utd, Man Utd, Liverpool, Villa, Palace, Forest
Everton: City, Palace, Brighton, West Ham, United, Liverpool

I reckon we definitely have the kindest run out of that lot and it's tough to see where the likes of Brentford, Forest and Everton are getting many points from.

5) Injuries to key players. These should dry up now as all of our key players are already injured.

I'm not sure I've convinced myself but given that most of our 'famous' wins tend to come when things are looking bleak, I'm hoping that we're somehow going to beat Everton and Burnley and then suddenly things would look a lot rosier.

Edited by Canterbury Palace (06 Feb 2024 9.16am)

 


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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 06 Feb 24 9.20am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Reasons we won't go down: There is no promotion and relegation, only a realignment of divisional status.

I think we'll be realigned to the Championship status as befits our current championship behaviour.


 


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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 06 Feb 24 9.28am Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Well Canterbury Palace, your assertion re:
5) Injuries to key players. These should dry up now as all of our key players are already injured.

That's a reason we won't go down?

Like to know who will step into their boots to provide the semblance of an attacking threat that will give us a positive goal difference in our remaining fixtures. Other teams in the relegation mix seem to be playing better football. Without our two stars who will provide the goals, and if they are provided who have we got who we can rely on to take them? Will the manager give anyone just the chance to go for wins?

I don't share your to me, misplaced, optimism!

 


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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 06 Feb 24 9.29am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

We're a shambles and it's about as depressing as I can remember at the moment. So I decided to try and be positive and look for reasons that we'll be safe. Here's what I came up with.

1) 5 points clear. The obvious one but despite our wretched form, many of the teams below us are in a bad way too. Realistically another 10/12 points from our final 15 games will probably be enough and, as bad as we are, we're averaging more than that per game.

2) 6 teams competing for one spot. Sheff Utd are basically down, aren't they? And the same can be said for Burnley who are seven points from safety. Realistically it is probably between Fulham, us, Brentford, Forest, Luton and Everton for that last spot. We only need to finish above one of them.

3) Points deductions. The possibility of points deductions to Everton and or Forest could be enough to finish one of them off at a key point to the season.

4) Upcoming fixtures. Here are the next fixtures for the clubs in the mire.

Palace: Chelsea, Everton, Burnley, Spurs, Luton, Newcastle
Fulham: Bournemouth, Villa, United, Brighton, Wolves, Tottenham
Brentford: Wolves, Liverpool, Man City, West Ham, Chelsea, Arsenal
Forest: Newcastle, West Ham, Villa, Liverpool, Brighton, Luton
Luton: Sheff Utd, Man Utd, Liverpool, Villa, Palace, Forest
Everton: City, Palace, Brighton, West Ham, United, Liverpool

I reckon we definitely have the kindest run out of that lot and it's tough to see where the likes of Brentford, Forest and Everton are getting many points from.

5) Injuries to key players. These should dry up now as all of our key players are already injured.

I'm not sure I've convinced myself but given that most of our 'famous' wins tend to come when things are looking bleak, I'm hoping that we're somehow going to beat Everton and Burnley and then suddenly things would look a lot rosier.

Edited by Canterbury Palace (06 Feb 2024 9.16am)

In previous times I wouldnt disagree with many of you points, however:

Our end to the season is pretty difficult. IMO we have the next 8 games to get the required points.

Olise (2 months), and Eze (TBC) - they might now be out for all of our winnable games.

We are not the hard to beat Roy of old. We are fragile and leek goals.

We seem devoid of any fight.

All the teams around us are playing better

 

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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 06 Feb 24 9.29am Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Well Canterbury Palace, your assertion re:
5) Injuries to key players. These should dry up now as all of our key players are already injured.

That's a reason we won't go down?

Like to know who will step into their boots to provide the semblance of an attacking threat that will give us a positive goal difference in our remaining fixtures. Other teams in the relegation mix seem to be playing better football. Without our two stars who will provide the goals, and if they are provided who have we got who we can rely on to take them? Will the manager give anyone just the chance to go for wins?

I don't share your to me, misplaced, optimism!


It was supposed to be a lighthearted addition. Would focus on the top 4 as serious reasons.

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 06 Feb 24 9.29am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

I am amused by the theory that we have lost all our best players so cant lose them again. That this will somehow keep us buoyed above the drop zone.

I think Luton's run is the kindest, but as you say, we only need to beat one of those listed clubs to survive.

I suspect the finance rules may be what saves us, not our plucky spirit and raucous support.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 06 Feb 24 9.30am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

5) Injuries to key players. These should dry up now as all of our key players are already injured.

Edited by Canterbury Palace (06 Feb 2024 9.16am)

 

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View georgey wood's Profile georgey wood Flag South London and Proud 06 Feb 24 9.51am Send a Private Message to georgey wood Add georgey wood as a friend

It’s proper squeaky bum time and Saturday was an absolute disgrace of a performance by players and management. I also think us as fans weren’t great. I was there and although it’s hard to get behind your team when you concede early ( from yet another set play and to old big nose), Roy playing the same players with no real attacking threat I felt fans gave up like the team. Banners and walking out you have to question that especially down there. Anyway each to their own on that point but not for me! I also think Roy’s time is up but it doesn’t look like we have a replacement or the board still back him so quite simply we need to support the team we’ve got until the end of the season and hope for the best like we always do at palace!

To be honest we’ve got Burnley, Luton, West Ham and Newcastle at home if we can’t get 6-9 points out of them 4 games. Plus nick a point or two away at Everton, Forest and Fulham then we deserve to go down end of story.

Added to that possible points deductions, some harder run-ins for relegation rivals and the fact a few of them must start picking up some injuries to key players. Imagine Luton without Barkley or if Brentford lost Toney again that would have the same impact as Eze and Olise. (I’m just hoping we can get Eze and Gehi back in the next month and keep them fit and I think we’ll have a fighting chance). Then pray Franca. Ahmada, Wharton and Munoz can add some spark, even if Olise is out for a longer period.

The biggest problem now is us as fans and the disconnect with the team and among ourselves. Whether you’ve got the hump with the yanks, Parish, Schlupp, Croydon council for taking your flag poles, the fanatics for nicking your seat etc. We need to get behind the team and give the them the extra 5% chance they clearly need at home and grind out some points! We can sulk all summer if we go down and protest and moan at the board then! Then have a season in half empty grounds in the championship!

Keep the faith! COYP

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Feb 24 10.28am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Probably quite a short thread.

 


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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 06 Feb 24 11.33am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Everton 's well discussed points deduction is also key to our survival as a further points deduction could get well sink them.
However,should they be successful in their appeal,then it is us who have a serious fight to stay in this League,unless we get very lucky or secure the services of a more forward thinking Manager.

 

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View MabbsWasKing's Profile MabbsWasKing Flag 06 Feb 24 12.08pm Send a Private Message to MabbsWasKing Add MabbsWasKing as a friend

6. Our fabulous support will drive the team home…….oh wait a minute…a third go home when the going gets tough and then a mob abuse our players and coaching staff!

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 06 Feb 24 12.13pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by georgey wood


The biggest problem now is us as fans and the disconnect with the team and among ourselves. Whether you’ve got the hump with the yanks, Parish, Schlupp, Croydon council for taking your flag poles, the fanatics for nicking your seat etc. We need to get behind the team and give the them the extra 5% chance they clearly need at home and grind out some points! We can sulk all summer if we go down and protest and moan at the board then! Then have a season in half empty grounds in the championship!

Keep the faith! COYP

Good post. You're obviously right, but it's bloody difficult. Next month will mark 70 years since I first went to Selhurst, and although we've been through some awful times, the current situation somehow seems worse. Certainly it's the first time that I have felt genuinely reluctant to go there again, and if my neighbour decides not to go next week, I won't either. Pathetic, I know, relying on someone else to take the decision for me. But perhaps I'll convince myself that it's always darkest before the dawn........and turn up as usual. Decisions, decisions!

 

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