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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Mar 24 7.51am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I thought I would start a thread.

So did the women get screwed by the government in 2010, yup. However so did the men including me although not as bad as the women.

I don't really buy into the "we never knew" the government ran a TV and newspaper campaign as well as sending letters out. No doubt some people did not receive a letter and never look at TV or the papers but the idea that hundreds of thousands of women didn't know I am skeptical about.

Anyway they want 10k and the commission says they should get circa 3k and the government says no and Labour has gone quiet.

You might think I am unsympathetic I'm not. I was born Dec 1960 and every major pension change always starts with those born after April 1960 will have to....

I do think from the start the WASPI campaign has had a major flaw. Compensating them for their loss would cost the taxpayer 35bn the whole point of the changes was to save money on pensions.

It is not often pointed out by journalists but this generation of women statistically are the richest group of women so far. So many of them are comfortable and do not need a massive handout from the taxpayer.

I think their campaign then should have focused on the smaller group of hardship cases which I don't doubt exist. I think that would have resonated far more with the public and the politicians.

 


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View cROYdonrogers's Profile cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 22 Mar 24 8.31am Send a Private Message to cROYdonrogers Add cROYdonrogers as a friend

I’m struggling with this one. If there’s been any screwing as the OP suggests it’s all of us, men and non identifiers included.
I’m not fully understanding their nuanced argument and the suggestion they were not told is laughable.
Finally the amount of money recommended-a max of£3k is relatively low. This is a big non issue in my view.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 22 Mar 24 8.46am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Something needs to be paid otherwise it will never go away.
If the independent report says £3k then they should do that and leave it there.
Labour are not going to join in are they - any money paid will affect them and part of the problem happened on the Blair/Brown watch!

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Mar 24 9.15am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Don't forget there have been multiple court cases over this which WASPI have lost. The report by the Ombudsman actually goes against those rulings.

I believe it is still billions if the government agrees to 3k per person which is why Labour who said in the 2019 election they would solve this is keeping quiet.

I have no doubt this was shabby treatment but as I said earlier every time the government raises taxes somebody gets screwed.

My guess is that Labour will not agree to fund everybody as there are a lot of middle class women in this group. I think they will focus on the women at the bottom who are in dire straits and I would be okay with that. I am not keen on bailing out those of the Jam and Jerusalem set.

 


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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 22 Mar 24 10.09am Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

Women wanted equal rights to men and when they got it they moan about it .
I was hoping the pension age would go down to 60 to be equal with women but no that was never going to happen .

 

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