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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

I see Germany having problems with the number 44 on their new shirts as it looks like the SS logo.
I reckon the world will be looking to lose national identity before long.

I can actually understand why there are problems over this.

There is still in Germany a large amount of national collective guilt and deep shame over their country's actions before and during WW2, so anything looking remotely like the symbol of the SS on their national team's shirt is bound to cause upset.

 

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Originally posted by nhp61

I can actually understand why there are problems over this.

There is still in Germany a large amount of national collective guilt and deep shame over their country's actions before and during WW2, so anything looking remotely like the symbol of the SS on their national team's shirt is bound to cause upset.

It's laughable that grown ups are bothered by a number that looks a little bit, but not that much like SS. Pathetic in fact.

This is driven by professional outrage merchants and corporations running scared of tarnishing their reputations and damaging their profits.
The average person couldn't give a toss I suspect, because it is utter nonsense.
From the same type of people who want to change our national flag because it might offend a small group of total morons.

 

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Iíve only just read this story and the comments that followed it as it appeared pretty irrelevant anyway.

Now I have I must say I am totally disgusted. Not with the idea of ďthe flag being changedĒ, because it hasnít. A few pieces of merchandise are being marketed, loosely based on the appearance of the flag, but not the flag itself or, even, the uniforms the team will wear.

No, what disgusts me is yet another attempt by contemptuous newspapers and TV propaganda stations to whip up false sentiment with a fake story. That some people fall for it hook line and sinker is very sad.

If it upsets you donít buy the merchandise. Itís probably not aimed at you in the first place. Others might like it.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Iíve only just read this story and the comments that followed it as it appeared pretty irrelevant anyway.

Now I have I must say I am totally disgusted. Not with the idea of ďthe flag being changedĒ, because it hasnít. A few pieces of merchandise are being marketed, loosely based on the appearance of the flag, but not the flag itself or, even, the uniforms the team will wear.

No, what disgusts me is yet another attempt by contemptuous newspapers and TV propaganda stations to whip up false sentiment with a fake story. That some people fall for it hook line and sinker is very sad.

If it upsets you donít buy the merchandise. Itís probably not aimed at you in the first place. Others might like it.

The flag of St George is a Red Cross on a white background. Why tamper with it? The Union flag is red white and blue, why tamper with it. I have never bought any of the merchandise but itís not a false story or propaganda ( how you use this word is bizarre) is it?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Iíve only just read this story and the comments that followed it as it appeared pretty irrelevant anyway.

Now I have I must say I am totally disgusted. Not with the idea of ďthe flag being changedĒ, because it hasnít. A few pieces of merchandise are being marketed, loosely based on the appearance of the flag, but not the flag itself or, even, the uniforms the team will wear.

No, what disgusts me is yet another attempt by contemptuous newspapers and TV propaganda stations to whip up false sentiment with a fake story. That some people fall for it hook line and sinker is very sad.

If it upsets you donít buy the merchandise. Itís probably not aimed at you in the first place. Others might like it.

Out of interest, are you equally disgusted by the outrage with the German kits and the actions taken?

It's very interesting these two stories have emerged simultaneously.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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I was miffed when they changed the flag in 1801.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Iíve only just read this story and the comments that followed it as it appeared pretty irrelevant anyway.

Now I have I must say I am totally disgusted. Not with the idea of ďthe flag being changedĒ, because it hasnít. A few pieces of merchandise are being marketed, loosely based on the appearance of the flag, but not the flag itself or, even, the uniforms the team will wear.

No, what disgusts me is yet another attempt by contemptuous newspapers and TV propaganda stations to whip up false sentiment with a fake story. That some people fall for it hook line and sinker is very sad.

If it upsets you donít buy the merchandise. Itís probably not aimed at you in the first place. Others might like it.


Sure. And let's get Crass to reform and record an anarcho-punk alternative national anthem. Also Great Britain is a bit hubristic so lets rename the team Not As Bad as They Used To Be Islands.

 

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Originally posted by Spiderman

The flag of St George is a Red Cross on a white background. Why tamper with it? The Union flag is red white and blue, why tamper with it. I have never bought any of the merchandise but itís not a false story or propaganda ( how you use this word is bizarre) is it?

It just isnít though. No one is tampering with any flag. The flags that will fly remain untouched. No one is sticking labels on merchandise and saying they are flags.

This is somebody designing merchandise. Nothing more. That they use a design reference to create a link is often done. I am sure Mary Quantís stuff back in the 60s used such references but they werenít flags either. Unless there is a patent, or some other protective restriction over the design then this is a fuss about nothing at all.

That the merchandise exists isnít fake, but the furore is and those who try to whip up false sentiment are indeed spreading propaganda.

 


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Originally posted by Nicholas91

Out of interest, are you equally disgusted by the outrage with the German kits and the actions taken?

It's very interesting these two stories have emerged simultaneously.

No. But only because Iím not German or in Germany so cannot judge whether the reaction is genuine or not.

 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Sure. And let's get Crass to reform and record an anarcho-punk alternative national anthem. Also Great Britain is a bit hubristic so lets rename the team Not As Bad as They Used To Be Islands.

Completely different. If the original melody of the national anthem was given offensive words and a new arrangement then there would be justification for upset.

No one is changing a flag! They are marketing clothes and merchandise. Itís a commercial world. Donít buy it.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Completely different. If the original melody of the national anthem was given offensive words and a new arrangement then there would be justification for upset.

No one is changing a flag! They are marketing clothes and merchandise. Itís a commercial world. Donít buy it.

More offensive than -

May he sedition hush,

And like a torrent rush,

Rebellious Scots to crush.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No. But only because Iím not German or in Germany so cannot judge whether the reaction is genuine or not.

Perhaps if the design of the numbers were put on the England shirts youíd have an opinion?

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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