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View Philís Barber's Profile Philís Barber Flag Crowborough 03 Apr 24 8.16pm Send a Private Message to Philís Barber Add Philís Barber as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

You could just reply without the rudeness - I appreciate you have to dress up the s***e you're posting, but it's unnecessary.

Eze has 2 assists this season from 20 appearances and who knows how many set pieces - he's averaging an assist every 750 minutes, or one every 8 or so games, as supposedly our most creative player. Bear in mind he offers next to nothing out of possession on top of that. I read he gave the ball away 20+ times last night - that's just not good enough.

He's exceptionally talented, but is not remotely consistent, nearly always goes missing in big games, and does not consistently impact games anywhere close to the way Wilf used to.

Well said, good post in every respect.

Ebs is a very talented player but has been off his game recently. The stats for possession given away in the Forest & Bournemouth games are alarming for someone of his ability.

 

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Originally posted by Philís Barber

Well said, good post in every respect.

Ebs is a very talented player but has been off his game recently. The stats for possession given away in the Forest & Bournemouth games are alarming for someone of his ability.

He's got a rep for taking time to get back to full speed after injury. I'm guessing he won't lose possession so much against City - mainly because he won't have as much

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Apr 24 8.31pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Philís Barber

Well said, good post in every respect.

Ebs is a very talented player but has been off his game recently. The stats for possession given away in the Forest & Bournemouth games are alarming for someone of his ability.

Could our lack of real movement be somewhat to blame? I've noticed us getting more into the box but we still seem to not quite create any space in midfield.
I often think Eze may as well take it on himself as there's often only a half hearted call for the ball from many of our players. I wouldn't even pick on many individuals currently - there are several areas we're not good enough as a team. The obvious one is scoring when we have have good chances currently.
I know Eze failed to pick out people a couple of times recently but can't help but wonder if it's the lack of Olise that hurts the most. They seem on a similar wavelength when they play together - which seems rare at the moment. The rest just don't seem to pick up on what Eze is thinking.

 


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View Swindy's Profile Swindy Flag Bromley 03 Apr 24 9.22pm Send a Private Message to Swindy Add Swindy as a friend

Well last night summed up perfectly how poorly recruitment has been handled recently - I know we have some injuries to key players - but after 11 years at this level, we go to 'plucky little' Bournemouth, hardly take it to them and are as toothless again as a newly promoted side.
Personally, I like OG and its a shame that the high number of injuries (again !!) has put the brakes firmly on much of a 'new manager bounce'.
If we can keep away from relegation (and that's not a given), his appointment could be an exciting one, however, you hope that Parish and Freedman have learnt from the at best, average recruitment over the last 12 months, back him properly as he is likely to have to reshape the defence as a minimum (release Ward, Clyne and Tomkins, replace Mitchell and the likely departure of Guehi) and generally properly back him - you assume hopefully that if he started to Palace in the Autumn, there is a proper promise of funding.

 

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View crvenaeagle's Profile crvenaeagle Flag 03 Apr 24 9.49pm Send a Private Message to crvenaeagle Add crvenaeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Swindy

Well last night summed up perfectly how poorly recruitment has been handled recently - I know we have some injuries to key players - but after 11 years at this level, we go to 'plucky little' Bournemouth, hardly take it to them and are as toothless again as a newly promoted side.
Personally, I like OG and its a shame that the high number of injuries (again !!) has put the brakes firmly on much of a 'new manager bounce'.
If we can keep away from relegation (and that's not a given), his appointment could be an exciting one, however, you hope that Parish and Freedman have learnt from the at best, average recruitment over the last 12 months, back him properly as he is likely to have to reshape the defence as a minimum (release Ward, Clyne and Tomkins, replace Mitchell and the likely departure of Guehi) and generally properly back him - you assume hopefully that if he started to Palace in the Autumn, there is a proper promise of funding.

Yes, you would assume that, but I get the idea that same promise was made to many other managers in the past.

But when September rolls around I can even almost hear the "Sorry, Steves out to lunch" excuses coming from the head offices.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 03 Apr 24 11.58pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Swindy

Well last night summed up perfectly how poorly recruitment has been handled recently - I know we have some injuries to key players - but after 11 years at this level, we go to 'plucky little' Bournemouth, hardly take it to them and are as toothless again as a newly promoted side.
Personally, I like OG and its a shame that the high number of injuries (again !!) has put the brakes firmly on much of a 'new manager bounce'.
If we can keep away from relegation (and that's not a given), his appointment could be an exciting one, however, you hope that Parish and Freedman have learnt from the at best, average recruitment over the last 12 months, back him properly as he is likely to have to reshape the defence as a minimum (release Ward, Clyne and Tomkins, replace Mitchell and the likely departure of Guehi) and generally properly back him - you assume hopefully that if he started to Palace in the Autumn, there is a proper promise of funding.

I think you are falling into a trap by your labelling of Bournemouth. Unfashionable and with a small stadium, yes. But invested in ( £200m net spend over last 8 years ) and some very smart dealings in the transfer market by their version of DF, Richard Hughes, means they need to be taken as seriously as any club outside of the top 7/8.

Last night looked to be heading for a 0-0 and I didnít think either side had done enough to win the game. If there was to be a winner it would have had to be either a piece of individual brilliance or a mistake. Sadly for us I think there were two mistakes made, by OG for putting Ozoh on as a centre back and by Ozoh himself as he was out muscled by a more experienced opponent.

Itís been a season long tale of woe in terms of injuries. It contributed to Hodgsonís downfall and has hampered Glasnerís efforts since he came in.

The clubs recent decision to seek funding for player purchases against future sales indicate that Palace want to give Glasner the financial backing to reshape the squad. It should be an interesting summer

 


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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 04 Apr 24 7.00am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Of course Wilf has, and is a legend at the club, but anyone suggesting the Eze isn't a class player is ridiculous

If we had a fit Wilf in our team on Saturday, City would need to worry about him.
They won't feel the same about Eze.
If we get a good offer in the Summer I won't shed a tear.
Of the 4 players who could go, he would be first out.
He has amazing talent and appears to be a really nice young man but he needs more and we don't have the time if the right offer comes in.
He probably needs to play in a better team to be honest for his talent to reach fruition.


 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 04 Apr 24 8.29am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by Philís Barber

Well said, good post in every respect.

Ebs is a very talented player but has been off his game recently. The stats for possession given away in the Forest & Bournemouth games are alarming for someone of his ability.

They really are. Plus lots of bad decisions, the first one that springs to mind was when he was in the box had JP inside open, and tried to go round the defender himself

He's better than that.

 

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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 04 Apr 24 8.46am Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I think you are falling into a trap by your labelling of Bournemouth. Unfashionable and with a small stadium, yes. But invested in ( £200m net spend over last 8 years ) and some very smart dealings in the transfer market by their version of DF, Richard Hughes, means they need to be taken as seriously as any club outside of the top 7/8.

Last night looked to be heading for a 0-0 and I didnít think either side had done enough to win the game. If there was to be a winner it would have had to be either a piece of individual brilliance or a mistake. Sadly for us I think there were two mistakes made, by OG for putting Ozoh on as a centre back and by Ozoh himself as he was out muscled by a more experienced opponent.

Itís been a season long tale of woe in terms of injuries. It contributed to Hodgsonís downfall and has hampered Glasnerís efforts since he came in.

The clubs recent decision to seek funding for player purchases against future sales indicate that Palace want to give Glasner the financial backing to reshape the squad. It should be an interesting summer

Agreed, and the strange move to put Ozoh in defence was the reason we lost :-(

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Apr 24 8.57am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Could you not say that about the team as a whole?

Of course playing better teams is generally more difficult, but no I don't think it's as extreme in other cases.

Olise only has 9 PL goals but has managed goals against Chelsea, City & United.

A selection of Wilf's career tallies would be;

4x against Utd
3x against Chelsea
3x against Liverpool

Certain players and playing styles are better suited to different game types, and I think Eze really struggles to impact games against top sides, more so than you'd expect.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Online Flag 04 Apr 24 9.31am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I always felt we were at our best when we had 2 flair players in the side at the same time, as it gave the opposition more problems (stretched them in defence both physically & mentally) I,m thinking Zaha & Bolasie as an example - fast forward to today, we are paying against better teams, better teams have more information than even before & know what to deal with, Eze has been our main / sole creative outlet this season, so gets closed down more / faster against the better teams -

I would have hoped that when we have Olise' back in the starting 11 that will help because once again the opposition are dealing with the fast approaching skills of 2 very creative players.


Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Of course playing better teams is generally more difficult, but no I don't think it's as extreme in other cases.

Olise only has 9 PL goals but has managed goals against Chelsea, City & United.

A selection of Wilf's career tallies would be;

4x against Utd
3x against Chelsea
3x against Liverpool

Certain players and playing styles are better suited to different game types, and I think Eze really struggles to impact games against top sides, more so than you'd expect.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 04 Apr 24 9.34am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

If we had a fit Wilf in our team on Saturday, City would need to worry about him.
They won't feel the same about Eze.
If we get a good offer in the Summer I won't shed a tear.
Of the 4 players who could go, he would be first out.
He has amazing talent and appears to be a really nice young man but he needs more and we don't have the time if the right offer comes in.
He probably needs to play in a better team to be honest for his talent to reach fruition.


crikey, seems harsh. He's just come back from Injury, and he's immediately expected to win us games on his own.
It's not Fifa ffs, just because someone is deemed 'fit' enough to start does not mean they are going to be back to their fully maurauding, accurate selves. I think he's earned some credit to get back to form.

You're right though, that he needs to play in a better team.. but if our first 11 is ever available, then this team is good enough for him.

 


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