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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jun 24 9.56am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Well, we've already won a cup, so Europe it is.

It was a great day out after losing the FA Cup, but it isn't enough.

I'd take an FA Cup win over Europe any day, but Europe would be a progression in terms of the club's future.

I know everyone is optimistic, but I can't see us getting further than the Conference League. Getting in the Europa would be a major achievement.
Neither are big money spinners, but they might help us retain and attract players of a higher quality.

I still want some silverware in the cabinet. Hell, even a League cup would do for now.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne 09 Jun 24 10.27am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

We have played in Europe, Anglo Italian, inter toto, i couldn't give a rats arse about the silly European cups, that muck your domestic season up, Champions league, fair enough, but league or FA cup all day long for me

Youíre right Lanzo, but Iíve always wanted to see a bit of competitive European football at selhurst, even if we go out early, Iím not bothered about winning it, which would solve the problem of our squad not coping. I canít count Samsungspur in the intertoto cup in a half empty stadium in July, it was basically just a s*** pre season friendly.

When I was a kid I used to see our top sides playing famous old European names like St Etienne, Lokomotive Liepsig, Hadjuk Split, Red Star Belgrade, Dinamo Dresden, Eintract Frankfurt, Hamburg with Keegan, Borussia Monchengladbach etc etc and Iíve always just wanted a couple of European nights at Selhurst to say Iíve done it

 

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View n wales eagles's Profile n wales eagles Flag llandudno 10 Jun 24 6.28am Send a Private Message to n wales eagles Add n wales eagles as a friend

Same ride as always just a bigger rollercoaster

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 10 Jun 24 7.36am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Form over the last seven matches is League and Cups winning. Have to hope that Oliver Glasner motivates our treasures to stay for next season and enjoy their football.

We start the season with two (Women and Under 21) cups in the display cabinet.

What would be the odds offered for a double or treble?

 

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View andyachtie's Profile andyachtie Flag Monte Giberto 10 Jun 24 8.56am Send a Private Message to andyachtie Add andyachtie as a friend

This....

Originally posted by monkey

Iím with you eagleman, it was a special day for the 33,000 of us who were there, especially coming so quick after the heartbreak of the year before

Iíve seen palace play in FA Cup finals which was my dream as a kid, especially 1990 at the old Wembley when it still mattered, so Iíd love to get into Europe just to see a bit of competitive European football at selhurst even if we get knocked out early, I saw us play samsunspur in the intertoto cup in July 98 but canít bring myself to count that as having seen palace play in Europe

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 10 Jun 24 9.14am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

FA cup first then Europe the following season

Ideally this. So we've got another season to build the squad depth.

But we don't know how long we'll keep this team together so need to go for broke really.

Qualifying for, dare I say, the Champions League, would get them all to stick around for another year.

So, I've changed my mind. CL qualification, and then FA cup year 2!

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 10 Jun 24 3.15pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Optimism is rife on HOL at the moment. I've seen a number of posts along the lines of: "we could push on next season and win a cup or qualify for Europe".

If you had to choose one or the other to come to fruition, which would it be?

No one will look back in 30 years and say remember when we finished 6th and qualified for the Europa league.

Us fans want trophies not the outside possibility of one a year later.

For me its the FA Cup (and winning that qualifies for Europe anyway!

 

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View HesHereHesThere's Profile HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 10 Jun 24 7.33pm Send a Private Message to HesHereHesThere Add HesHereHesThere as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Optimism is rife on HOL at the moment. I've seen a number of posts along the lines of: "we could push on next season and win a cup or qualify for Europe".

If you had to choose one or the other to come to fruition, which would it be?

FA Cup 100%

 

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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 11 Jun 24 11.59am Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

The FA Cup, without replays, only entails an extra 5 games to get to the final ( not counting the 3rd round as that is a given). Europe would immediately entail 6 games, and more if successful.

Personally I would be concerned about the commitments that Europe would bring both in matches, travel and added injury "opportunities". I can live without it.

But as already mentioned an FA CUP win qualify us for Europe - so damned if you do damned if you don't.

 

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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

But is still a limited tournament that the teams that are not quite good enough enter, the League and FA cup are open tournaments that all enter, 12 games to reach the Quarter finals, of the Europa league, not worth it

good point, back in the day the Europeran Cup only had champions and the UEFA Cup had the next four down - there was a school of thought that the UEFA Cup was harder to win - most of the giants were in it and up for it unlike the Europa League, and the Conference League is even more mickey mouse than the old Cup Winners' Cup, though I wouldn't get too snobby about it as a humble Palace fan. I'd have to say Cup and not just because it qualifies us for Europe, it would stop opposing supporters singing "f*ck all, you've never won f*ck all...".

 

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Originally posted by HeathMan

Form over the last seven matches is League and Cups winning. Have to hope that Oliver Glasner motivates our treasures to stay for next season and enjoy their football.

We start the season with two (Women and Under 21) cups in the display cabinet.

What would be the odds offered for a double or treble?

Well by my reckoning, a cup double would be about 1,700-1, a league plus 1 cup double would be about 14,400-1 and a treble would be about 590,000-1.

This on the basis that we are currently 350-1 to win the PL next season and on my guestimate that we would be 40-1 for each of the cups. Frankly I've no idea what cup winning odds tend to be in reality. The odds for the cups don't appear to have been set yet in any case, so I suspect that if you walked into or contacted a bookie today, they would 'negotiate' a price for a double or treble and furthermore it would be less generous than 'accumulated' odds might be.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 11 Jun 24 2.22pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

No one will look back in 30 years and say remember when we finished 6th and qualified for the Europa league.

Us fans want trophies not the outside possibility of one a year later.

For me its the FA Cup (and winning that qualifies for Europe anyway!

No, but they will say 'remember that time we hosted Roma at Selhurst' or 'remember the away day in Amsterdam'.

The opportunity to play those sort of fixtures shouldn't be sniffed at!

 

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