Pardew needs to study back four arrangements especially at set pieces. If we'd been decent in that department today we would have had a point at least.

I don't want AP as Manager but even I can't blame him for two ridiculous bits of defending - actually three when you see the marking for their 4th goal as well - but the set piece defending cannot be his fault this time - just terrible defending.

..Everton are still thinking about that one!

Defend like this and we will not win against any team including Burnley who can defend. Liverpool should have scored another three or four they are a very good team so its not getting beat that matters its the way we conceded very easy goals. AP has got to get this sorted or get in a good defensive coach who can ASAP.

Being mid-table in Oct isn't anything to get overly excited about especially when we can't keep a clean sheet and have only won 5 league games in 2016!

Yep, I'm glad we're mid table but given our form this year I think it's unlikely that we'll stay there. Any by that, I'm not suggesting we'll be challenging for Europe ...

I'm not sure Allardyce is the answer. Like Pulis, he won't get you relegated (but, then again, I don't think Pardew will, either). He also won't give the flowing, attacking football so many here seem to crave. In any event, I think he'll return to Sunderland in the inevitable event of Moyes being sacked.

So, in the absence of an outstanding alternative candidate, we continue with the 'transitional period' mentioned at the beginning of the season and give Pardew more time to shape the team in his own image and accept that results may frequently not go our way in the process. It's a given that there are still several positions that are in need of upgrade and, until that happens (and that won't happen any quicker without Pardew), there is no option other than to continue as we are.

Continually moaning and bitching about our performances solves nothing - it's up to the fans to continue to get behind the team, whoever they are.