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glaziermart Flag 21 Jan 17 10.59pm

Sick of some of the negativity on here tonight. We played well and would have got a point if it was not for a disgraceful unsporting bit of play by Everton just before their goal. The formation was ok today, we just need some luck. Get real it was not that bad. Plus Wilf is on his way back from the African Nations Cup

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 21 Jan 17 11.08pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

I agree. Team set-up was good, players were prepped. Maybe still tired at the end though. Lazy swings out of defence instead of knowing you have time or directing clearance or out of play. Delaney the usual culprit again.

The ref was not at fault for Schlupp being injured out of play and knowing he was, and then Schlup shifting back on the pitch.

I have seen oppo players hurt out of play and our players check they're ok. None of that today from Everton.

Maybe we should do a bit of the same from now on if that's how it is.Never give the ball back or kick it out of play in the expected good sporting incidents.

Maye it should be f*** 'em from now on and play self interested only.

 


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View bashy2's Profile bashy2 Flag London 21 Jan 17 11.24pm Send a Private Message to bashy2 Add bashy2 as a friend

Palace have the best team there have ever had. we have a better team now than when we ended up 10 in the PL 3 years ago.now we are bottom 3 with 1 win in 8 games we should be top 10 so something is definitely wrong and it aint the training and fitness i can asure you of that

 

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View Gribbo's Profile Gribbo Flag Bromley 21 Jan 17 11.25pm Send a Private Message to Gribbo Add Gribbo as a friend

If you want to stop the game and the ref is not doing it, foul someone out wide, pick the ball up and tell the ref what he needs to do. You get a yellow card, but you break up the play and the injury gets sorted / substituted. Schoolboy stuff really.

If the ref thinks Schlupp is off the pitch, start treating him, the fellas injured. If the ref then wants to stop the game to discipline the trainer, happy days.

We just need to do what all the other teams do.

 

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chateauferret Flag 21 Jan 17 11.54pm

Originally posted by bashy2

Palace have the best team there have ever had. we have a better team now than when we ended up 10 in the PL 3 years ago.now we are bottom 3 with 1 win in 8 games we should be top 10 so something is definitely wrong and it aint the training and fitness i can asure you of that

Then WTF is it, Einstein?

 


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View moylerg's Profile moylerg Flag Cofton Hackett, Worcestershire 21 Jan 17 11.58pm Send a Private Message to moylerg Add moylerg as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

Then WTF is it, Einstein?

Indeed, please enlighten us Bashy2.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 21 Jan 17 11.59pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

If you want to stop the game and the ref is not doing it, foul someone out wide, pick the ball up and tell the ref what he needs to do. You get a yellow card, but you break up the play and the injury gets sorted / substituted. Schoolboy stuff really.

If the ref thinks Schlupp is off the pitch, start treating him, the fellas injured. If the ref then wants to stop the game to discipline the trainer, happy days.

We just need to do what all the other teams do.

Most players get injured just inside the pitch and won't move off when we shout at them to do so.

Rarely do you see a team concede from an injury at the other end but we do. Several reasons.

- The loose swing from the weaker left foot out out to the area where Everton players were without looking. Happened not long before by Delaney. Not good enough.

- Nobody covering left back properly. Chungy initially was but not at the crucial moment.

- Lack of that mean streak to do the necessary left over from the happy training ground era.

- We haven't our true competitiveness back because of the above.

They are not thinking of points almost there or at risk and it is not surprising really. Their alertness and focus has probably cost 10% and it's about that or so that's psychological. Enough ability, fitness, mindset, confidence and all that not yet back to where it needs to be.

 


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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 22 Jan 17 1.04am Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Most players get injured just inside the pitch and won't move off when we shout at them to do so.

Rarely do you see a team concede from an injury at the other end but we do. Several reasons.

- The loose swing from the weaker left foot out out to the area where Everton players were without looking. Happened not long before by Delaney. Not good enough.

- Nobody covering left back properly. Chungy initially was but not at the crucial moment.

- Lack of that mean streak to do the necessary left over from the happy training ground era.

- We haven't our true competitiveness back because of the above.

They are not thinking of points almost there or at risk and it is not surprising really. Their alertness and focus has probably cost 10% and it's about that or so that's psychological. Enough ability, fitness, mindset, confidence and all that not yet back to where it needs to be.

You don't half spout some rubbish. How long since you got your psychology degree now? Or maybe you can read what they are thinking, and can tap into their mental "focus, mindset, and confidence" like Mystic Meg?

State facts, or at least make it look like opinion.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 22 Jan 17 1.20am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

You don't half spout some rubbish. How long since you got your psychology degree now? Or maybe you can read what they are thinking, and can tap into their mental "focus, mindset, and confidence" like Mystic Meg?

State facts, or at least make it look like opinion.

'Spout spout spout.' People who say that word aren't worth the air they breathe.

Sport at the highest level is either 5% or 10% psychological. Our psychology is shot, together with our fitness and focus and cohesiveness. Thankfully Sammy Lee is drumming this cr&p into them.

Actually don't bother replying. You had your view when it was worth one in 1983.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 22 Jan 17 10.07am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I agree. Team set-up was good, players were prepped. Maybe still tired at the end though. Lazy swings out of defence instead of knowing you have time or directing clearance or out of play. Delaney the usual culprit again.

The ref was not at fault for Schlupp being injured out of play and knowing he was, and then Schlup shifting back on the pitch.

I have seen oppo players hurt out of play and our players check they're ok. None of that today from Everton.

Maybe we should do a bit of the same from now on if that's how it is.Never give the ball back or kick it out of play in the expected good sporting incidents.

Maye it should be f*** 'em from now on and play self interested only.

If an opposing player was injured and off the pitch and crawled back on in an attempt to get the game stopped, it would be called cheating.
The ref had no obligation in the rules to stop the game, as not a head injury.
There are signs we are getting better organised, but it takes time, if we have enough time to save ourselves is to be seen.
Benteke and Remy hitting form is crucial, along with new players in and return of Zaha.

 

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