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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 22 Jan 17 10.43pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

Sorry your wrong he has to rebuild a team as AP left us with a team that was low on confidence, poor in quality, was unfit, had no cover in key positions. Sam was bought in to sort things out which he trying to do but the difficulties is until he gets better players in key area's then he is stuck with AP legacy underperforming players!

But that's the thing we aren't poor in quality, we are under performing. Something is seriously wrong with this squad of players, yeah left back is a problem but the rest of the squad is still made up of numerous internationals, plenty of premier league experience and a wage budget of nearly 80 million a year. I don't accept that this squad isn't good enough to compete in this league, pardew failed and rightfully got the sack but for 3 million a year and the amount of experience allardyce has got you can't just continue to blame the previous manager.

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 22 Jan 17 10.50pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Mo Sizlak

Who told you that?

I thought that was pretty obvious, I don't think any football club owner in the world who had assembled the squad we have with the 16th highest wage bill in Europe would be stupid enough to be told by the manager he needed to rebuild.

 

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View MKCPFC's Profile MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 22 Jan 17 10.54pm Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

But that's the thing we aren't poor in quality, we are under performing. Something is seriously wrong with this squad of players, yeah left back is a problem but the rest of the squad is still made up of numerous internationals, plenty of premier league experience and a wage budget of nearly 80 million a year. I don't accept that this squad isn't good enough to compete in this league, pardew failed and rightfully got the sack but for 3 million a year and the amount of experience allardyce has got you can't just continue to blame the previous manager.

Name the quality . Who from our team would make it as a regular in any Premier team above the top 15.

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 22 Jan 17 11.04pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by MKCPFC

Name the quality . Who from our team would make it as a regular in any Premier team above the top 15.

Zaha, townsend, cabaye, mcarthur, benteke, dann, remy, would all get into other prem teams not on form but ability we've seen. Puncheon, schlupp, Ward, Tomkins and maybe ledley would all get in other squads.

 

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Brinscall Eagle Flag Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 22 Jan 17 11.10pm

WAtford. Bournemouth Burnley West Ham West Brom Stoke Tottenham might be happy to have Zaha. and Benteke on their books. Now name players from the other teams in the bottom 3 that teams 15 and above would get into their teams. We are where we are because of the collective performance of players coaches management and direction to single out any one is a bit unfair.
I accept we are not performing but it is the whole package which is failing it is not being brought down by one individual.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 22 Jan 17 11.15pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle

WAtford. Bournemouth Burnley West Ham West Brom Stoke Tottenham might be happy to have Zaha. and Benteke on their books. Now name players from the other teams in the bottom 3 that teams 15 and above would get into their teams. We are where we are because of the collective performance of players coaches management and direction to single out any one is a bit unfair.
I accept we are not performing but it is the whole package which is failing it is not being brought down by one individual.

Defoe
Pickford
Snodgrass
Livermore

It's not about one individual bringing us down, everyone at the club including the players have a collective responsibility.

 

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View highflyingeagle's Profile highflyingeagle Flag Croydon 23 Jan 17 12.12am Send a Private Message to highflyingeagle Add highflyingeagle as a friend

Ah !! ..I've got it now. Basically the starting jist of this post is that its all Pardews fault.

Got it now !!

Silly me I thought we've gone down further under BIG FAT CASH SAM !!

But no ! Now its all the Players fault ? ..............or Pardew, who apparently had spots ? which makes him " f**king useless "

Still all the deluded can wait for SAM to save us. If we get out of this mess it will be in spite of CASH MAN not because of him. And god help watching a few seasons of this s*** !!

Its all excuses, his comments aftermatch are even worse than his football.

Anyway ............psst Sam meet me at the Park Lane Hilton tomorrow, forget training etc, might be a few quid innit for you

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 23 Jan 17 8.24am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Zaha, townsend, cabaye, mcarthur, benteke, dann, remy, would all get into other prem teams not on form but ability we've seen. Puncheon, schlupp, Ward, Tomkins and maybe ledley would all get in other squads.

Yet they all came to us because they could not get regular first team football at their previous clubs, so clearly they were not good enough!

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 23 Jan 17 8.35am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by highflyingeagle

Ah !! ..I've got it now. Basically the starting jist of this post is that its all Pardews fault.

Got it now !!

Silly me I thought we've gone down further under BIG FAT CASH SAM !!

But no ! Now its all the Players fault ? ..............or Pardew, who apparently had spots ? which makes him " f**king useless "

Still all the deluded can wait for SAM to save us. If we get out of this mess it will be in spite of CASH MAN not because of him. And god help watching a few seasons of this s*** !!

Its all excuses, his comments aftermatch are even worse than his football.

Anyway ............psst Sam meet me at the Park Lane Hilton tomorrow, forget training etc, might be a few quid innit for you

Of course its AP fault he took a good team at the end of 2015 and turned it in to a shambles, how can you expect Sam to turnaround it in just six games and one addition in a difficult transfer window, what took AP 12 months to destroy will take Sam sometime to build back up, by the way he has not committed any criminal offence and was just entrapped by a slime ball journalist, naive and stupid maybe but then so have many others been stung in this way, I assume you are perfect and don't forgive anybody for a wrong!

 

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View smoothmanuel's Profile smoothmanuel Flag bracknell 23 Jan 17 9.07am Send a Private Message to smoothmanuel Add smoothmanuel as a friend

How can you say that? I bet you went to the F.A cup final or watched it on TV and let me remind you that it wasn't Big Sam that got us there if I recall it was Mr Pardew. Im not his biggest fan but we were poor in the league but had a great cup run (with the same team selected that he used in the league) so I don't really understand your attack on the guy. Not long now until you attack Big Sam as all he has done so far is beat Bolton but in time I think he will get it right and keep us up. Bottom Line Pardew is nowhere near as bad as your saying. Stop the slagging and get behind the red n blue army were all one big family

Originally posted by Mo Sizlak

.....you can't blame Allardyce. This mess is your doing.
I hated you when you played for us. Apart from that goal.
You've walked away with a £3m pay off for being a useless pock-marked face c***.
Hope you enjoy it but I hate you even more now.

You pock-marked face c***!

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 23 Jan 17 9.16am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I still do not understand Pardew supportes because you can dress it up anyway you want but the facts speak for themselves.
He was woeful in the second half of last season - 11 points in total.
He was woeful in the his games in charge this season as well and yet people believe he was the Messiah and I genuinly do not understand it?
I understand people wanting him to be a success - I was one of them - but the facts state that he was not a success at all.
When he arrived he kept us up with someone else's Team.
He then tried and succeeded to pick that apart to get his own players and tactics in and failed!
He was a victim of his own beliefs if you like - he is not as good as he thinks he is basically.
I keep harping back to it but when we took the lead in the Cup Final he didn't change tactics at all or try and close the game down - he just did a jig - I ask you - really - a good Manager??

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 23 Jan 17 9.50am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by smoothmanuel

How can you say that? I bet you went to the F.A cup final or watched it on TV and let me remind you that it wasn't Big Sam that got us there if I recall it was Mr Pardew. Im not his biggest fan but we were poor in the league but had a great cup run (with the same team selected that he used in the league) so I don't really understand your attack on the guy. Not long now until you attack Big Sam as all he has done so far is beat Bolton but in time I think he will get it right and keep us up. Bottom Line Pardew is nowhere near as bad as your saying. Stop the slagging and get behind the red n blue army were all one big family


That is what fooled Steve Parish as well, he believed AP was a better Manager than he actually was, getting to the Cup Final is mostly based on good luck with the draw and the game on the day and what importance the opposing team places on the competition or do they want to rest players, particularly so with PL clubs as most consider PL consider the PL to be their prime objective. How many teams have got the cup final and then been relegated that season or the next, both Hull and Wigan come immediately to mind. AP thought the cup final was a quick way to glorify himself and he went for that at the expense of PL, we only got 11 points during the whole cup run have had 31 at the start, without that first half season performance we would have been relegated in May 2016. So forget the cup final and look at our league position which is all down to AP and SP for not firing him when he should have in May 2016.

 

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