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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 Nov 17 1.14pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550


No it wont, the rise will only be miniscule...likley be another 25 basis points; but as I said most of the Mortgages we have are fixed rate so no one will notice the diff...until the fixed rate comes to an end.

The BoE simply wouldn't risk a rate rise that would see 1,000's defaulting on their mortgages. They're now in a situation where (as I said before) they have to start weening the public off of low rates in order to allow economy the time to adjust accordingly without creating any seismic shocks.

So i cant see it 'murdering london property prices' anytime soon tbh.

The current housing cycle is only half through it's life (reckoned to be on avg 18yrs from past data) ...it was predicted that a slowdon will occur these last 12months before then a small dip and then another rise before it becomes another bubble and bursts.

Interest rate rise WILL have an effect; but not a great one unless they hit >6% from my perspective as most landlords (well the sensible ones) are building stress factoring into their figures before buying property anyhoo....

I tend to agree with this. The more immediate risk is credit card and loan charges. Many people are living on
credit (in my day we called it debt). If the banks up these it will probably hit the public sooner than mortgage rate rises.

 


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View the_mcanuff_stuff's Profile the_mcanuff_stuff Flag Caterham 03 Nov 17 1.44pm Send a Private Message to the_mcanuff_stuff Add the_mcanuff_stuff as a friend

The problem is this. 2m households have joined the housing market since the BOE rate was 0.25% and they have budgeted accordingly. A lot of people could be in trouble if the rates go up too much.

Yes, they should have budgeted better, to take account of rate rises, but that's were we are.

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 03 Nov 17 2.24pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

I wouldn't worry...they'll be 3% soon enough but to raise them to 3% in one go would be suicide....slowly slowly...people need to be weened off of these low low rates

Sadly, I highly doubt it. Be lucky to get to that before 2020 odd.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 03 Nov 17 2.31pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

And the next rise in interest rates will murder london property prices. Expected early next year. Maybe a good thing.

We would need a deathly plague of biblical proportions to ever murder London property prices. And even then the foreign investors would still probably prop it up.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 03 Nov 17 2.33pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by the_mcanuff_stuff

The problem is this. 2m households have joined the housing market since the BOE rate was 0.25% and they have budgeted accordingly. A lot of people could be in trouble if the rates go up too much.

Yes, they should have budgeted better, to take account of rate rises, but that's were we are.

If they aren't on an extremely long fixed term mortgage, they'd deserve it. Anyone who has bought in the period cannot possibly have thought it would ever get cheaper to borrow than then.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 03 Nov 17 2.36pm

Carney said the rate would be 1% by 2020

Even though it affects me I think it's a good thing especially if it brings property prices down. They say less people are buying property as they cannot afford so eventually, you would think, with shrinking demand and rate rises, a property crash is around the corner.

What should also happen is people applying for mortgages should be able to prove they can make the repayments if the rate was 5%, so borrowers finances are properly stress tested

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Carney said the rate would be 1% by 2020

Even though it affects me I think it's a good thing especially if it brings property prices down. They say less people are buying property as they cannot afford so eventually, you would think, with shrinking demand and rate rises, a property crash is around the corner.

What should also happen is people applying for mortgages should be able to prove they can make the repayments if the rate was 5%, so borrowers finances are properly stress tested

He'll be gone before then, thankfully. Him even stating that now is daft as they could need to go up quicker or be held for longer if anything changes.

It might affect property prices across the country as a whole, but not in London and certainly not a "crash".

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 03 Nov 17 3.26pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

If they aren't on an extremely long fixed term mortgage, they'd deserve it. Anyone who has bought in the period cannot possibly have thought it would ever get cheaper to borrow than then.

I've just bought and the longest fixed period we could get was 5 years.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 03 Nov 17 3.35pm

Originally posted by Stuk

He'll be gone before then, thankfully. Him even stating that now is daft as they could need to go up quicker or be held for longer if anything changes.

It might affect property prices across the country as a whole, but not in London and certainly not a "crash".

I disagree and think he's a good governor

it's right that after the first rate rise in 10 years we don't cause panic and that people have some perspective of what sort of rises we can expect in the future.

If you're getting a mortgage now or remortgaging knowing they forecast the rate around 1% mark in 2 years I think that's better than nothing.

 


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Originally posted by DanH

I've just bought and the longest fixed period we could get was 5 years.

You can get 10 year ones, but even 5 years is a fair amount of guaranteed stability and is probably between 2 & 3% interest, which is peanuts.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 03 Nov 17 3.40pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I disagree and think he's a good governor

it's right that after the first rate rise in 10 years we don't cause panic and that people have some perspective of what sort of rises we can expect in the future.

If you're getting a mortgage now or remortgaging knowing they forecast the rate around 1% mark in 2 years I think that's better than nothing.

I think he's been average at best.

They shouldn't have put them down last year, so this isn't really a proper rise yet.

The mortgage market isn't really a problem anyway, defaults are at record lows and more people are on fixed terms than ever. The real issue is all the personal debt on credit cards, car loans etc.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 03 Nov 17 3.50pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

You can get 10 year ones, but even 5 years is a fair amount of guaranteed stability and is probably between 2 & 3% interest, which is peanuts.

1.35% so a decent deal. Hoping it doesn't go too mental in the next 5 years when we have to go to variable.

 

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