I don't see what his price tag and wages have to do with it at this point? He's already here, we're not discussing a new contract or buying him again?

He is contributing to the team, and in the last few games he's contributed to roughly the same amount of goals as Wilf?

By contributed I mean he has either scored, assisted or been heavily involved in the build up to.

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

You make some good points.

Of course I don't want him chasing every lost cause and being piggy in the middle when the centre backs are back and forth. But there is a wrong and a right time to press. This is what I mean by his football brain. At the right time he doesn't go.

My biggest concern with his work rate however is his desire to beat that defender to the near post etc. He just doesn't seem to get himself anywhere near those full stop. His positional play is bad. How often to you see him lurking about on the edge of the box when he should be getting across the defender in the 6 yard box.

He was called a statue when he was at Liverpool and that was with better service than we give him on the whole.

A busted flush in my opinion

No one has said a lucky punt. Thats words from your mouth (or keys) only.

My point being, People get excited about Benteke lifting the ball over the defender and out to the wing. Not a difficult pass. Was hardly a defence splitter ala Jack Wilshire to Sanchez.

You see balls of that standard and much better in many Saturday/Sunday grass roots games.

But credit where its due. At least it stayed in play!

irrelevant as one is completely different to the other, you may as well compare a show jumper to a jockey, essentially the same thing in riding a horse, but massively different in terms how its done.

Any comparison your making between the two simply doesn't work.

Judging by your statement about Benteke you would rather have Shane Long in the red and blue ?? becuase of his work rate etc ??

Don't get me wrong Benteke looks to be a busted flush, but as they saying goes form is temporary, class is permanent and I think his form is returning with his confidence.

So your opinion is worth more than mine because you played football once and I live in Scotland?

Wonderful logic that.

I tell you what. My son regularly watches Real Madrid. He thought it was an excellent ball. And he plays football, too. So by your own logic you're wrong. OK?

Still, some people would prefer to make themselves look like the village idiot than accept that a player they pathologically hate can do something right once in a while. Look at all the pathetic Hennessey threads. They're an absolute disgrace.

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I don’t understand why a full international footballer, who’s main strength is heading, runs in a straight line through the middle of the penalty box and hopes the ball will land on his head. Even strikers over the local park peel off to the back post then dart to the front post or check their run to try to lose the Center back. He just runs next to the Center half.
He has, luckily had quite a few this season, land on his head, he gets up well, higher than the cross bar. But fails to head it down.
If he gets a few before the end of the season and there’s interest from China , I’d sell him and put the money towards a time machine that can bring us a 25 year old Mark Bright/Chris Armstrong.