I look at it like this in some ways i hope we don't spend in Jan I know people are going to jump on me for this but this is why

We don't know how to use money correctly and clearly do not have in place proper scouting so are going by idiots which have shown already are not good enough so if they spend in Jan we wont have anything to spend in summer.

I would rather us put in place proper setup in Jan to then go after people in the summer.

Now this is a dangerous move but we should be able to grab a few more loans don't we have 2 domestic ones available still and whole bunch of international ones.

Another issue is Roy doesn't have a clue about recruiting players and doesn't appear interested in that side of things this is not good quality managers want to be involved and have knowledge just look at some of best signed we have had they was manager choices.

I don't think Roy will be sacked even if we was relegated.

We need the Americans to sell up but don't think it will happen and noticed how other rich people are coming in for clubs but not interested in us that has to be down to SP he's like a leach

Wagner

It's very easy to simplify things and slag off one or two players or the manager when things go wrong. It's almost always far more complicated than that, and I hope Roy manages to turn things around as he has a fairly decent squad which should be more than capable of keeping us up.

That said, I find it very strange that he sends out the same first eleven players with the same shape yesterday after such an abject performance against Brighton. Surely you change something, even if it's just to give the squad players a chance to prove themselves??

Edited by gbox82 (09 Dec 2018 9.35am)

The problem as I see it is that we really lack quality beyond the starting eleven. And for that reason we have players playing out of position and a manager reluctant to make changes to either the starting line up or during matches.

Look at the bench yesterday and then make a convincing case for starting any of those players - I'm struggling to. Are they ' game changers ' ? - Roy doesn't think so and I agree with him.

In a results business I think Roy is staring down the end of a barrel now. 12 months on and we are back to where we were a year ago only instead of results improving they are getting worse.But then who do you replace him with ? We're running out of the short term fix appointment candidates.

My perception of the way that the club is run is that there is no cohesive strategy or planning for the medium term on the playing side. Instead it's an annual fire fighting exercise. Parish seems to have too much direct influence and input rather than hire people that have proven experience in the running of football clubs.

I was told yesterday that Simon Jordan has hinted that Palace are unofficially up for sale ( £220m asking price ) - not seen that myself, but could that be a factor in where we currently find ourselves ?

The problem as I see it is that we really lack quality beyond the starting eleven. And for that reason we have players playing out of position and a manager reluctant to make changes to either the starting line up or during matches.

Look at the bench yesterday and then make a convincing case for starting any of those players - I'm struggling to. Are they ' game changers ' ? - Roy doesn't think so and I agree with him.

In a results business I think Roy is staring down the end of a barrel now. 12 months on and we are back to where we were a year ago only instead of results improving they are getting worse.But then who do you replace him with ? We're running out of the short term fix appointment candidates.

My perception of the way that the club is run is that there is no cohesive strategy or planning for the medium term on the playing side. Instead it's an annual fire fighting exercise. Parish seems to have too much direct influence and input rather than hire people that have proven experience in the running of football clubs.

I was told yesterday that Simon Jordan has hinted that Palace are unofficially up for sale ( £220m asking price ) - not seen that myself, but could that be a factor in where we currently find ourselves ?