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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Nov 14 5.04pm |
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Well anyone can call me a "Bloody limey" and I won't be offended ! I have been called enough names in my time ! In Australia some chap shouted at me "Like most Poms you are as tight as a camel's a...e in a sandstorm" - It was meant to insult but I burst out laughing !
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| Pawson Palace Croydon 21 Nov 14 5.05pm |
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Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm
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Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though
I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did!
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Seth  On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.08pm |
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Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 5.05pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm
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Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though
I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did! Not in my eyes you weren't pal. Just having a good old debate which is what these boards are for! No hard feelings ever though - it's not worth that much. We're all Palace after all
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.09pm |
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Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 5.04pm
Well anyone can call me a "Bloody limey" and I won't be offended ! I have been called enough names in my time ! In Australia some chap shouted at me "Like most Poms you are as tight as a camel's a...e in a sandstorm" - It was meant to insult but I burst out laughing !
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| Stuk Top half 21 Nov 14 5.09pm |
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Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.57pm
Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 4.51pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.40pm
Quote Ian J at 21 Nov 2014 4.38pm
Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 4.21pm
Quote Mapletree at 21 Nov 2014 4.10pm
Japanese people think "Jap" is racist . Do they ? For what reason ? To my mind "Jap" is just a shortened form of Japanese. Enlighten me, is there some deep-seated historical or other reason why "Jap" is considered racist ?
That's why willo didn't know it was derogatory. His cultural awareness was halted at the turn of the 20th century To back Willo up here somewhat. Jap is not considered racist, and if it is there is an awful lot of companies breaking the law if you google search for "jap" and then parts or cars etc. I believe Nips was the offensive terms, which is an abbreviation of the word they use for Japan.
Q: Is the word Jap considered derogatory? Yes, this phrase is widely considered a racial slur. Much of the English speaking world and the Japanese themselves consider this to be a derogatory term. If you use this word to describe Japanese people or culture — you are likely to offend. That's one person's opinion as far as I can see, but i'm sure there's others that share the opinion. Do you think there would be multiple companies operating as "Jap" something if it was offensive, no matter the context?
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.16pm |
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Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 5.09pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.57pm
Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 4.51pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.40pm
Quote Ian J at 21 Nov 2014 4.38pm
Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 4.21pm
Quote Mapletree at 21 Nov 2014 4.10pm
Japanese people think "Jap" is racist . Do they ? For what reason ? To my mind "Jap" is just a shortened form of Japanese. Enlighten me, is there some deep-seated historical or other reason why "Jap" is considered racist ?
That's why willo didn't know it was derogatory. His cultural awareness was halted at the turn of the 20th century To back Willo up here somewhat. Jap is not considered racist, and if it is there is an awful lot of companies breaking the law if you google search for "jap" and then parts or cars etc. I believe Nips was the offensive terms, which is an abbreviation of the word they use for Japan.
Q: Is the word Jap considered derogatory? Yes, this phrase is widely considered a racial slur. Much of the English speaking world and the Japanese themselves consider this to be a derogatory term. If you use this word to describe Japanese people or culture — you are likely to offend. That's one person's opinion as far as I can see, but i'm sure there's others that share the opinion. Do you think there would be multiple companies operating as "Jap" something if it was offensive, no matter the context?
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| PALACE FOR EVER London 21 Nov 14 5.18pm |
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Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.55pm
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Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.27pm
Like the recent case with Top Gear....who here honestly knew Slope was supposed to be a derogatory comment for an Asian person?
I guess thats my problem with some of this- being branded such and such when one might be oblivious to its meaning. In Whelans case I believe he has been very naive, but I dont think he intended to offend. Really he should have just maintained a dignified silence and let the results on the pitch do the talking. I think Whelan is old-fashioned and ignorant but probably not a racist. Like you however, I think he was extremely foolish to say what he did instead of just saying "Mackay made a mistake, he's apologised and now we move on". Instead he's given the story more legs than a caterpillar and ensured it's stayed on the back (and front) pages than it would've done if he'd just kept schtum about the whole thing.
I'm sure the media/press would still have said/written articles about the situation but nothing like what has happened & will continue. If everything stays the same the next big news story will be when the FA make their decisions about Mackay & now Whelan.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Nov 14 5.18pm |
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Tan calls Whelan a racist. Isn't that slanderous ?
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| Pawson Palace Croydon 21 Nov 14 5.18pm |
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Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 5.08pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 5.05pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.44pm
. Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Nov 2014 4.47pm)
Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though
I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did! Not in my eyes you weren't pal. Just having a good old debate which is what these boards are for! No hard feelings ever though - it's not worth that much. We're all Palace after all I look forward to discrimination against the Scousers on Sunday! Sign on, sign on!
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| Stuk Top half 21 Nov 14 5.21pm |
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Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 5.16pm
Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 5.09pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.57pm
Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 4.51pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.40pm
Quote Ian J at 21 Nov 2014 4.38pm
Quote Willo at 21 Nov 2014 4.21pm
Quote Mapletree at 21 Nov 2014 4.10pm
Japanese people think "Jap" is racist . Do they ? For what reason ? To my mind "Jap" is just a shortened form of Japanese. Enlighten me, is there some deep-seated historical or other reason why "Jap" is considered racist ?
That's why willo didn't know it was derogatory. His cultural awareness was halted at the turn of the 20th century To back Willo up here somewhat. Jap is not considered racist, and if it is there is an awful lot of companies breaking the law if you google search for "jap" and then parts or cars etc. I believe Nips was the offensive terms, which is an abbreviation of the word they use for Japan.
Q: Is the word Jap considered derogatory? Yes, this phrase is widely considered a racial slur. Much of the English speaking world and the Japanese themselves consider this to be a derogatory term. If you use this word to describe Japanese people or culture — you are likely to offend. That's one person's opinion as far as I can see, but i'm sure there's others that share the opinion. Do you think there would be multiple companies operating as "Jap" something if it was offensive, no matter the context?
That's a company with a market capitalisation of more than $18bn using it.
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.23pm |
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Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 5.18pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 5.08pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 5.05pm
Quote Seth at 21 Nov 2014 4.48pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 21 Nov 2014 4.44pm
. Edited by Pawson Palace (21 Nov 2014 4.47pm)
Ah well, up to you to delete it. I wasn't offended by it though
I agree with you but I think I got there a different way (and certainly more long winded) to how you did! Not in my eyes you weren't pal. Just having a good old debate which is what these boards are for! No hard feelings ever though - it's not worth that much. We're all Palace after all I look forward to discrimination against the Scousers on Sunday! Sign on, sign on!
We pay your benefits....
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 21 Nov 14 5.25pm |
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Quote Stuk at 21 Nov 2014 5.21pm
That's a company with a market capitalisation of more than bn using it.
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