This attitude is so yesterday and indicates just how out of touch are those who hold it.

No-one has an exclusive right to define what constitutes being an Englishman. It has always meant different things to different people and has always been evolving.

As most of us will have very mixed genes they cannot possibly be a relevant definition.

What this attitude seems to really be expressing is that for some people anyone who isn't like them cannot really be English. People can be proud of their country for many reasons. Some are proud of England for welcoming and adopting them, for the tolerance and support they are shown. As a consequence they devote their future to serving their new country, often with more passion and determination to those born here.

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One of our best friends is a Greek. He owns a pharmacy in Athens but was being taxed so heavily he left it in the hands of his father and staff and moved here, where he qualified, to work for Boots, bringing his family with him.

If anyone was going to "blame the Germans" it would be him. He doesn't. He blames his fellow countrymen and the way they assumed they could milk the system for ever.

Whether he ever goes back is an open question. He is doing well here and is now the operations director of a regional pharmacy chain. His kids love it here. They are all real Europeans and think Brexit is total madness. If our economy dives and Greece recovers we may well lose them again.

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Lord 'Haw Haw' was hung, but his spirit survived.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Their culture may have unique characteristics but apart from that they are as varied as anywhere else. What helps people here is the environment in which they are able to live their lives. This tends to lift the spirits and promotes wellbeing which in turn fosters happiness. Being relatively isolated also creates a community spirit and a willingness to look out for others. I suppose a little like an island community.

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You could have said most of that about many areas of London at one time.

One of the big arguement for remain was that no one can agree on what they want a Brexit deal to look like. Those annoying hard-core remainers are right in that respect, but they forget to add that his is probably your prefered compromise.

Corbyn was not a remainer. He has always been a eurosceptic but as a leader he would just say anything to be popular.

The deal doesn't look that bad at all. The biggest personal impact is that their won't be mutual recognition of overseas professional accreditation, which means less completion for jobs and hopefully wage inflation.

I was a remainer, for various reasons, I didn't like UKIP's version of leaving the EU, there wasn't a clear plan, it would *did lead to years of uncertainty, it was likely to go terribly wrong (Theresa May)
and my large mortgage/secure job combo meant I didn't want anyone rocking the boat. Personally, I wasn't a fan of the EU, but like many, thought it was a decent idea in theory but it was difficult to get a clear remit on what it should and shouldn't do as it just kept grabbing more and more power. I did keep telling people that I thought their was a slim chance that Brexit could be amazing, but not really worth the risk.

Boris, a more moderate remainer than Farage appears to have made a half decent job of it. Everyone knows, the real test will be over the next few years. COVID fell at a fortunate time because I thing the EU just wanted us to f*** off in the end so they could deal with all their other issues.

On Nigel Farage, is he an anarchist? He's removed the highest level of government, his political parties are pretty much a disorganised rabble design to split votes and cause mayhem.