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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 13 Apr 23 4.54pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Just for my own musing, do you consider the below statement to be certainly true?

"a huge percentage of people in this country are considerably more concerned with Kier Starmer's answer to "what is a woman?" than they are with our failing public services and declining living standards."

I believe it to be true, yes, that’s why I said it.

If you don’t agree, you can suggest it’s not the case just as I have with becky’s post… isn’t that how this works?

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 13 Apr 23 5.22pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I believe it to be true, yes, that’s why I said it.

If you don’t agree, you can suggest it’s not the case just as I have with becky’s post… isn’t that how this works?

Nah.

That was the extent of my involvement for now… plus this post confirming that.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 13 Apr 23 6.02pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

It is, however, a very strategic decision and will continue to ramp up over the coming months - the Tories know they don't have any hope of winning an election running on policy and their track record, so the only way they gain support is by inventing and stoking these weird culture war talking points and hope they pick up enough votes that way.

And it works... a huge percentage of people in this country are considerably more concerned with Kier Starmer's answer to "what is a woman?" than they are with our failing public services and declining living standards.

If the public thought rainy days happen then just maybe they could have prevented some of the pain. ‘Declining standards’ we are where we should have been years ago and do you believe as many as are claiming to be pot-less actually are? Look at shops and restaurants and cinemas etc. town centres don’t appear to be slowing down. It’s called jumping on the bandwagon from people who want free stuff. I’m not saying many are suffering yes and should have help but not the amount who claim to be in that position.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 13 Apr 23 8.34pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Not only is this a complete non sequitur, it's also almost certainly untrue.

Put a frock and some slap on and go find out for yourself...

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 23 9.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

So you are obviously into RnB and rap. ? How many corner shops were open on a Sunday before the Asians took a lot of them ? Ever seen a White person working in a curry house or Chinese Take-away ?

Actually, without being totally objectionable, there is a mixture in practice. Lots of cities have enclaves of immigrants, quite substantial in some of them. Some immigrants do integrate, but more often they tend to group together as a separate sub-group

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (13 Apr 2023 12.50pm)

Not at all "into" rnb or rap! Yes, to the second. The last time we ate in a curry house all the servers were "white".

New arrivals tend to gravitate to areas where they feel comfortable, often sharing a home for a while. That's nothing new or unusual. That will dissipate over time. How much time depends on many things. It can take several generations receiving a better education, becoming more familiar with and accepting of British culture and being accepted within it.

I can see it happening, even if others don't. Some will probably always live in enclaves, some because of religion, just look at Golders Green, some because of deprivation, but it will lessen. Where people have their home is not exclusively where they spend their lives. Some areas will be permanently changed, like Leicester, but will become more prosperous and develop their own character.

Others will arrive, for sure, but not necessarily from the same areas, and the pattern will repeat.

I see nothing to be unduly concerned about. We need to find the ways to cope with this because to not do so would produce a worse outcome.

We ought not be frightened by change. It's always been with us in one way or another, and this is simply another way.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 13 Apr 23 9.49pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not at all "into" rnb or rap! Yes, to the second. The last time we ate in a curry house all the servers were "white".

New arrivals tend to gravitate to areas where they feel comfortable, often sharing a home for a while. That's nothing new or unusual. That will dissipate over time. How much time depends on many things. It can take several generations receiving a better education, becoming more familiar with and accepting of British culture and being accepted within it.

I can see it happening, even if others don't. Some will probably always live in enclaves, some because of religion, just look at Golders Green, some because of deprivation, but it will lessen. Where people have their home is not exclusively where they spend their lives. Some areas will be permanently changed, like Leicester, but will become more prosperous and develop their own character.

Others will arrive, for sure, but not necessarily from the same areas, and the pattern will repeat.

I see nothing to be unduly concerned about. We need to find the ways to cope with this because to not do so would produce a worse outcome.

We ought not be frightened by change. It's always been with us in one way or another, and this is simply another way.

Several generations from when? Those who arrived fifty years ago or those who arrived today?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 23 9.55pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So now you are beginning to see the reality, but it doesn't matter as long as all those Asians, Africans and Poles like fish and chips.

Well, I am not so keen to see our gene pool erased. I think it's an insult to those who worked and fought for this country over thousands of years, especially since a number of those foes were very keen on wiping out entire races.
Obviously that is OK with you when you do it without guns and gas chambers so no one notices.

Let's be like Wisbech and adopt a nothing matters fatalistic, nihilistic attitude to everything.

It's you who don't see the reality. Which is that we need younger people to bolster our work force and maintain our economy. It might surprise you, but there are a great deal more important things in British culture than fish and chips, which have, in any case, been replaced in popularity by Chicken Tikka Masala. Think about what that tells us!

Our gene pool won't be "erased". With all humans sharing 99.9% of each other's genes that couldn't happen in any circumstances. How many new arrivals will intermarry? Over many generations things will be different, just as they have been before, but by then no-one will notice, or care.

We have taught our Commonwealth cousins to consider themselves British. People came from the Caribbean, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Canada and India to fight with us in WW2. I suspect you approve of some of them joining us, but not others.

The idea that our "race" will be wiped out, without guns and gas chambers, is a disgusting comment. It's an insult both to all those who were actually the victims of a genocide but also to those arriving here with nothing more than a desire for a better life.

 


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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 13 Apr 23 9.56pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not at all "into" rnb or rap! Yes, to the second. The last time we ate in a curry house all the servers were "white".

New arrivals tend to gravitate to areas where they feel comfortable, often sharing a home for a while. That's nothing new or unusual. That will dissipate over time. How much time depends on many things. It can take several generations receiving a better education, becoming more familiar with and accepting of British culture and being accepted within it.

I can see it happening, even if others don't. Some will probably always live in enclaves, some because of religion, just look at Golders Green, some because of deprivation, but it will lessen. Where people have their home is not exclusively where they spend their lives. Some areas will be permanently changed, like Leicester, but will become more prosperous and develop their own character.

Others will arrive, for sure, but not necessarily from the same areas, and the pattern will repeat.

I see nothing to be unduly concerned about. We need to find the ways to cope with this because to not do so would produce a worse outcome.

We ought not be frightened by change. It's always been with us in one way or another, and this is simply another way.

You are like a child talking about father Christmas.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 23 10.01pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Environment does play a role, along with a common language, similar race, religion (spiritual and secular) and a shared history.

People do not magically acquire these things - they might over many hundreds of years.

As with all of life today it's happening ever more quickly. New technology arrives, we all adopt it and all share it. We might have different pasts, but we share a today and a future.

Religion is certainly an issue, but you know my solution to that.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 23 10.08pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Several generations from when? Those who arrived fifty years ago or those who arrived today?

The effect on those who arrived fifty years ago is observable. Those today obviously cannot, but it ought to be quicker, everything else being equal. We won't know yet.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 23 10.10pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

You are like a child talking about father Christmas.


Even that must be preferable to those who say nothing, but use words to do it.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 13 Apr 23 10.13pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


Even that must be preferable to those who say nothing, but use words to do it.

There are several terms with -phobia attached which would argue against that idea.

 

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