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Stirlingsays 10 Aug 18 1.39pm
Apparently Idris Elba is being considered for the next James Bond when Craig leaves. I have a couple of observations on this. Firstly currently Hollywood seems obsessed with no 'cultural appropriation' and only having people with the right ethnicity playing, what they deem the appropriate roles......Well, seeing as James Bond was written as a white bloke with Sottish and Swiss parents that files in the face of this. However, I regard the people who push that politics as t***s and I think this should be about meritocracy and purely about the acting ability and charisma. So on that score this guy is definitely someone who can do Bond. However, as we speak Idris Elba is 45 years old. This is already too old to be starting an actor on this road. Especially if Craig is doing the next movie. So personally, I think they should start him now for one or two movies at most......Craig is already too old himself and shouldn't be doing anymore. This whole thing though might just be a cheap publicity play by the producers to keep the Bond name out there. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Aug 2018 1.41pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

10 Aug 18 1.39pm

Apparently Idris Elba is being considered for the next James Bond when Craig leaves.

I have a couple of observations on this.

Firstly currently Hollywood seems obsessed with no 'cultural appropriation' and only having people with the right ethnicity playing, what they deem the appropriate roles......Well, seeing as James Bond was written as a white bloke with Sottish and Swiss parents that files in the face of this.

However, I regard the people who push that politics as t***s and I think this should be about meritocracy and purely about the acting ability and charisma. So on that score this guy is definitely someone who can do Bond.

However, as we speak Idris Elba is 45 years old. This is already too old to be starting an actor on this road. Especially if Craig is doing the next movie.

So personally, I think they should start him now for one or two movies at most......Craig is already too old himself and shouldn't be doing anymore.

This whole thing though might just be a cheap publicity play by the producers to keep the Bond name out there.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Aug 2018 1.41pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Old Spice green st green 10 Aug 18 1.47pm
Roger Moore was actually 45 when he started playing Bond I think Not a great fan of Elba though, watched something with him as a Police officer and it didn’t look great

Old Spice

green st green 10 Aug 18 1.47pm

Roger Moore was actually 45 when he started playing Bond I think

Not a great fan of Elba though, watched something with him as a
Police officer and it didn’t look great

madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 10 Aug 18 1.59pm
Wasn't James Bond black in the original books? Regardless, if his change in hair colour etc over the years hasn't been an issue, his skin colour shouldn't. Way more important things for people to worry about these days La la la your mum

madcap_v2

SE25 / Ibiza 10 Aug 18 1.59pm

Wasn't James Bond black in the original books?

Regardless, if his change in hair colour etc over the years hasn't been an issue, his skin colour shouldn't. Way more important things for people to worry about these days

La la la your mum

kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 10 Aug 18 2.07pm
Originally posted by madcap_v2 Wasn't James Bond black in the original books? Regardless, if his change in hair colour etc over the years hasn't been an issue, his skin colour shouldn't. Way more important things for people to worry about these days nope. fleming based bond on himself and charactrs he'd met within his line of career. Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

kingdowieonthewall

Sussex, ex-Cronx. 10 Aug 18 2.07pm

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Wasn't James Bond black in the original books?

Regardless, if his change in hair colour etc over the years hasn't been an issue, his skin colour shouldn't. Way more important things for people to worry about these days

nope.

fleming based bond on himself and charactrs he'd met within his line of career.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

regal_eagle somewhere 10 Aug 18 2.14pm
. Edited by regal_eagle (10 Aug 2018 2.14pm)

regal_eagle

somewhere 10 Aug 18 2.14pm

Edited by regal_eagle (10 Aug 2018 2.14pm)

Stuk Top half 10 Aug 18 2.17pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Apparently Idris Elba is being considered for the next James Bond when Craig leaves. I have a couple of observations on this. Firstly currently Hollywood seems obsessed with no 'cultural appropriation' and only having people with the right ethnicity playing, what they deem the appropriate roles......Well, seeing as James Bond was written as a white bloke with Sottish and Swiss parents that files in the face of this. However, I regard the people who push that politics as t*s and I think this should be about meritocracy and purely about the acting ability and charisma. So on that score this guy is definitely someone who can do Bond. However, as we speak Idris Elba is 45 years old. This is already too old to be starting an actor on this road. Especially if Craig is doing the next movie. So personally, I think they should start him now for one or two movies at most......Craig is already too old himself and shouldn't be doing anymore. This whole thing though might just be a cheap publicity play by the producers to keep the Bond name out there. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Aug 2018 1.41pm) It's not just Hollywood. They recently had to recast the role of Maria in West Side Story in London as some people moaned like f* that the actress chosen (who has played the role before) wasn't Puerto Rican, who are of course plentiful in the UK as we all know... In the end the complainers decided anyone Latino would be close enough but they've ended up replacing the American actress with a Canadian one (who has also played the role before). They were closer the first time, as Puerto Rico is at least a territory of the USA. This is a role famously played by Natalie Wood, an American of Russian descent. And it's an industry called "acting" not "replicating". The phrase "cultural appropriation" is yet another w***y modern phrase, to go with the many others some of which I see written far too often on this site. Another favourite one of late is "colourism". There was a story of a girl that had been cast to play the title character of a book. Readers/fans, or "activists" (there's another one) most likely, decried that she was too light skinned compared to the cover art and that this was "colourism". One of the chief complainers was the illustrator of the cover. When they spoke to the actual author of the book she explained that she wasn't happy with the cover art on the book, and never had been, but didn't have control over it from the publishers. She described the actress chosen as being exactly what she wrote about. [Link] Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 10 Aug 18 2.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Apparently Idris Elba is being considered for the next James Bond when Craig leaves.

I have a couple of observations on this.

Firstly currently Hollywood seems obsessed with no 'cultural appropriation' and only having people with the right ethnicity playing, what they deem the appropriate roles......Well, seeing as James Bond was written as a white bloke with Sottish and Swiss parents that files in the face of this.

However, as we speak Idris Elba is 45 years old. This is already too old to be starting an actor on this road. Especially if Craig is doing the next movie.

So personally, I think they should start him now for one or two movies at most......Craig is already too old himself and shouldn't be doing anymore.

This whole thing though might just be a cheap publicity play by the producers to keep the Bond name out there.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Aug 2018 1.41pm)

It's not just Hollywood. They recently had to recast the role of Maria in West Side Story in London as some people moaned like f*** that the actress chosen (who has played the role before) wasn't Puerto Rican, who are of course plentiful in the UK as we all know...

In the end the complainers decided anyone Latino would be close enough but they've ended up replacing the American actress with a Canadian one (who has also played the role before). They were closer the first time, as Puerto Rico is at least a territory of the USA.

This is a role famously played by Natalie Wood, an American of Russian descent. And it's an industry called "acting" not "replicating".

The phrase "cultural appropriation" is yet another w***y modern phrase, to go with the many others some of which I see written far too often on this site.

Another favourite one of late is "colourism". There was a story of a girl that had been cast to play the title character of a book. Readers/fans, or "activists" (there's another one) most likely, decried that she was too light skinned compared to the cover art and that this was "colourism". One of the chief complainers was the illustrator of the cover. When they spoke to the actual author of the book she explained that she wasn't happy with the cover art on the book, and never had been, but didn't have control over it from the publishers.

She described the actress chosen as being exactly what she wrote about.

[Link]

Optimistic as ever

Mr Palaceman 10 Aug 18 2.23pm
I think he would be good in that type of role but I don't know how they would square the story. Bonds history is well established, the writers would have to get creative so it made sense. I do like Idris, he's one of those actors for me that, even if the movie is a bit dodgy, he's usually good in it. I could see him with a gun in a tux but he's been concidered before and he wouldn't be my favorite. I would have liked to see a bit more of Craig in the role. He's the best bond since Mr Connery, imo. When there is a next bond, my suggestion would be the guy who plays Ragnor in Vikings, Travis Fimmel. "You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead" Stan Laurel

Mr Palaceman

10 Aug 18 2.23pm

I think he would be good in that type of role but I don't know how they would square the story.

Bonds history is well established, the writers would have to get creative so it made sense.

I do like Idris, he's one of those actors for me that, even if the movie is a bit dodgy, he's usually good in it. I could see him with a gun in a tux but he's been concidered before and he wouldn't be my favorite.

I would have liked to see a bit more of Craig in the role. He's the best bond since Mr Connery, imo.

When there is a next bond, my suggestion would be the guy who plays Ragnor in Vikings, Travis Fimmel.

"You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead"

Stan Laurel

Hrolf The Ganger 10 Aug 18 2.39pm
Originally posted by Mr Palaceman I think he would be good in that type of role but I don't know how they would square the story. Bonds history is well established, the writers would have to get creative so it made sense. I do like Idris, he's one of those actors for me that, even if the movie is a bit dodgy, he's usually good in it. I could see him with a gun in a tux but he's been concidered before and he wouldn't be my favorite. I would have liked to see a bit more of Craig in the role. He's the best bond since Mr Connery, imo. When there is a next bond, my suggestion would be the guy who plays Ragnor in Vikings, Travis Fimmel. He is good but he is not British. I'm sorry but Bond has to be British and White. If we need a Black spy them make a new one. I'm sure Idris, Denzel or somebody would jump at the chance. Does anyone fancy a White Shaft?

Hrolf The Ganger

10 Aug 18 2.39pm

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

I think he would be good in that type of role but I don't know how they would square the story.

Bonds history is well established, the writers would have to get creative so it made sense.

I would have liked to see a bit more of Craig in the role. He's the best bond since Mr Connery, imo.

When there is a next bond, my suggestion would be the guy who plays Ragnor in Vikings, Travis Fimmel.

He is good but he is not British.
I'm sorry but Bond has to be British and White.
If we need a Black spy them make a new one.
I'm sure Idris, Denzel or somebody would jump at the chance.
Does anyone fancy a White Shaft?

Stuk Top half 10 Aug 18 2.48pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger He is good but he is not British. I'm sorry but Bond has to be British and White. If we need a Black spy them make a new one. I'm sure Idris, Denzel or somebody would jump at the chance. Does anyone fancy a White Shaft? You've not seen Undercover Brother then? Two Face in the Batman films has been played by white and black actors. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 10 Aug 18 2.48pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He is good but he is not British.
I'm sorry but Bond has to be British and White.
If we need a Black spy them make a new one.
I'm sure Idris, Denzel or somebody would jump at the chance.
Does anyone fancy a White Shaft?

You've not seen Undercover Brother then?

Two Face in the Batman films has been played by white and black actors.

Optimistic as ever

Beastie 10 Aug 18 3.03pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger He is good but he is not British. I'm sorry but Bond has to be British and White. If we need a Black spy them make a new one. I'm sure Idris, Denzel or somebody would jump at the chance. Does anyone fancy a White Shaft? Pierce Brosnan and George Lazenby are non British.

Beastie

10 Aug 18 3.03pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Pierce Brosnan and George Lazenby are non British.

Mr Palaceman 10 Aug 18 3.12pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger He is good but he is not British. I'm sorry but Bond has to be British and White. If we need a Black spy them make a new one. I'm sure Idris, Denzel or somebody would jump at the chance. Does anyone fancy a White Shaft? Travis is not British but to be honest I think It's hard to replace Daniel Craig. They may have to look further afield. A white Shaft would be really funny, especially if you got one of the Winans to play the character. That would confuse everyone. "You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead" Stan Laurel

Mr Palaceman

10 Aug 18 3.12pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Travis is not British but to be honest I think It's hard to replace Daniel Craig. They may have to look further afield.

A white Shaft would be really funny, especially if you got one of the Winans to play the character. That would confuse everyone.

"You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead"

Stan Laurel

becky over the moon 10 Aug 18 3.31pm
Idris Elba, well it could be worse...... they could go for a female Bond, as they did with Dr Who........ A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

becky

over the moon 10 Aug 18 3.31pm

Idris Elba, well it could be worse......

they could go for a female Bond, as they did with Dr Who........

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

martin2412 Living The Dream 10 Aug 18 4.28pm
Originally posted by becky Idris Elba, well it could be worse...... they could go for a female Bond, as they did with Dr Who........ They may just as well go the whole hog. I think the next Bond should be a black, disabled, Muslim, homosexual, vegan.

martin2412

Living The Dream 10 Aug 18 4.28pm

Originally posted by becky

Idris Elba, well it could be worse......

they could go for a female Bond, as they did with Dr Who........

They may just as well go the whole hog. I think the next Bond should be a black, disabled, Muslim, homosexual, vegan.

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Aug 18 5.00pm
Originally posted by becky Idris Elba, well it could be worse...... they could go for a female Bond, as they did with Dr Who........ There's a female Bond in Dr Who??? Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 10 Aug 18 5.00pm

Originally posted by becky

Idris Elba, well it could be worse......

they could go for a female Bond, as they did with Dr Who........

There's a female Bond in Dr Who???

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Stirlingsays 10 Aug 18 5.13pm
Originally posted by Old Spice Roger Moore was actually 45 when he started playing Bond I think Not a great fan of Elba though, watched something with him as a Police officer and it didn’t look great Yeah, we all know Moore went on far too long.....they need to keep Bond under fifty....he's meant to be 43 in the books. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

10 Aug 18 5.13pm

Originally posted by Old Spice

Roger Moore was actually 45 when he started playing Bond I think

Not a great fan of Elba though, watched something with him as a
Police officer and it didn’t look great

Yeah, we all know Moore went on far too long.....they need to keep Bond under fifty....he's meant to be 43 in the books.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 10 Aug 18 5.17pm
Originally posted by Mr Palaceman I would have liked to see a bit more of Craig in the role. He's the best bond since Mr Connery, imo. When there is a next bond, my suggestion would be the guy who plays Ragnor in Vikings, Travis Fimmel. Craig is too old....but I agree, he has been brilliant. Travis is too short.....I know what you mean though, he has that other worldly presence. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

10 Aug 18 5.17pm

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

I would have liked to see a bit more of Craig in the role. He's the best bond since Mr Connery, imo.

When there is a next bond, my suggestion would be the guy who plays Ragnor in Vikings, Travis Fimmel.

Craig is too old....but I agree, he has been brilliant.

Travis is too short.....I know what you mean though, he has that other worldly presence.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 10 Aug 18 5.19pm
Originally posted by becky Idris Elba, well it could be worse...... they could go for a female Bond, as they did with Dr Who........ Progressives are t***s. If it wasn't done with an agenda it wouldn't piss me off so much. I think Elba can play Bond, he has that persona, still....I'm fed up with old Bonds. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Aug 2018 5.20pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

10 Aug 18 5.19pm

Originally posted by becky

Idris Elba, well it could be worse......

they could go for a female Bond, as they did with Dr Who........

Progressives are t***s.

If it wasn't done with an agenda it wouldn't piss me off so much.

I think Elba can play Bond, he has that persona, still....I'm fed up with old Bonds.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Aug 2018 5.20pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 10 Aug 18 5.20pm
Originally posted by Beastie Pierce Brosnan and George Lazenby are non British. And look how well that went. Lazenby lasted one film and Brosnan's efforts were dire.

Hrolf The Ganger

10 Aug 18 5.20pm

Originally posted by Beastie

Pierce Brosnan and George Lazenby are non British.

And look how well that went. Lazenby lasted one film and Brosnan's efforts were dire.

Stuk Top half 10 Aug 18 5.24pm
Originally posted by madcap_v2 Wasn't James Bond black in the original books? Regardless, if his change in hair colour etc over the years hasn't been an issue, his skin colour shouldn't. Way more important things for people to worry about these days You'd think but Samuel L Jackson complained when Daniel Kaluuya was cast as the lead in Get Out on the basis that he was English, and that interracial relationships are so common here compared to in the USA. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 10 Aug 18 5.24pm

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Wasn't James Bond black in the original books?

Regardless, if his change in hair colour etc over the years hasn't been an issue, his skin colour shouldn't. Way more important things for people to worry about these days

You'd think but Samuel L Jackson complained when Daniel Kaluuya was cast as the lead in Get Out on the basis that he was English, and that interracial relationships are so common here compared to in the USA.

Optimistic as ever

Stirlingsays 10 Aug 18 5.24pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger And look how well that went. Lazenby lasted one film and Brosnan's efforts were dire. Brosnan had that weedy voice. Lazenby's movie had the best title music though: Original [Link] The modern day remix by the Propellerheads [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

10 Aug 18 5.24pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And look how well that went. Lazenby lasted one film and Brosnan's efforts were dire.

Brosnan had that weedy voice.
Lazenby's movie had the best title music though:

Original

[Link]

The modern day remix by the Propellerheads

[Link]

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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