No its the same thing - the colour of your oppressor doesn't make you a better person, especially when you then respond by turning a blind eye to the murder of white civilians.

Those who claim to liberate their people, have to actually deliver on that claim - and deliver their people from oppression, otherwise the revolution is a failure. You have to be better, than those you depose. Otherwise, all you are doing is perpetuating the problems of a nation.

You cannot oppose racist regime, by adopting racism. In the aftermath of the revolution / civil war, it has to be about a new nation, together. Zimbabwe is an example of what happens when you just change the oppressor.

That might mean implementing policy that 'targets white standards of living' in order to improve the standard of living for the black working classes (education, work training programs).

What happened though, is was a policy of murder-theft that left Zimbabwe without anyone 'who knew how to farm or keep to manage the economy etc' - and the country collapsed into a police state dictatorship, in which a new oppressive elite emerged, that arguably was at least as vicious and violent than the preceding regime, towards any blacks who spoke out.

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Rhodesia was better under white rule, but Zimbabwe wasn't.

The same can be said about any other colonised nation. Pre-independence, it benefitted the colonisers. Post-independence, it benefits the majority (in most cases).

Whether or not it benefits the nation is, I think, somewhat irrelevant. How would you feel if someone moved into your house and changed everything you know and love, restricted you for certain rooms, and misused your resources, and did it all under the assumption that "it benefits me better this way, your opinion is not important".

Colonisation is long over. And people should let it go. But let's not begin to pretend that it wasn't a bad thing.

I don't believe anyone should be subjugated but I do object to the term White rule. Europeans happen to be White and took control of parts of Africa during a certain period. The skin colour is incidental.
Remember that Africa was in a pre industrial state before European settlement and entirely tribal in nature. At least some parts of Africa are now developed as a result of colonialism.

I'll stop objecting to it when you explain the difference between being oppressed for being indigenous to being oppressed for being from a different tribe or religion.

Not much of a difference at all.

The latter is out and out bigotry whilst the former is out and out state-sanctioned overt legal racism. As was the case in White Ruling Apartheid South Africa, USA, Rhodesia and Australia.

I prefer the term 'exclusion' over 'oppression' as that describes it better.

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I'm no fan of defending colonialism, and regard empire as probably the greatest wrong done by the British as a nation in history. I abhor the idea of suppression of any individuals right to live freely and go about their life as they see fit, whether its racial, religious or cultural prejudice.

What I don't accept is the idea that replacing one tyrant for another is in any way a positive change. I could go on here about how the failure of the previous regimes of South Africa and Zimbabwe produced the ANC and ZANU (respectively) and that I don't actually see their fight as being wrong per se (those who are oppressed should fight back).

But the actions of Mugabe following the 1980 elections, showed the true colours of the regime to come. Some of the early achievements of ZANU in response to health care and education should be applauded - but the tyranny of Mugabe towards any attempt of political power for the population simply mirrors the oppression of previous white national governments.

If I object to the idea of racist politics, that has to work both ways. You can't accept that the ANC were right to fight, and then defend racist policy and actions that their followers pursued later against ordinary white citizens.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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