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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jul 24 1.09pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle An example of having one's cake and eating it then. Fruitcake perhaps?

Hrolf The Ganger

15 Jul 24 1.09pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

An example of having one's cake and eating it then.

Fruitcake perhaps?

beak croydon 15 Jul 24 1.09pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin The rhetoric in politics both here and abroad is pretty vile at times. From Angela Rayner calling the Tories scum, in parliament, to some of the stuff - on both sides in America - it is all pretty bad. The trouble is that idiots fixate on it, believe it to be true and then try and do something about it and with gun - no - laws in America as they are, is it any surprise that some kid didn't think twice before taking a pot shot at Trump. He probably thought he was helping the world. It is all crazy and they need to wind down the personal stuff and words like "bullseye" from Biden on Trump and the BBC guy here posting that Biden should take Trump out, should be treated severely. How the BBC guy still has a job I have no idea. This is nothing new,Aneurin Bevan Health Minister and Housing Minister 1945 onwards said that the Tories were lower than vermin. The press the next day said he called the Tories vermin, so he called a press conference the following day to explain,he did not call them vermin they are MUCH lower than vermin.

beak

croydon 15 Jul 24 1.09pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

The rhetoric in politics both here and abroad is pretty vile at times.
From Angela Rayner calling the Tories scum, in parliament, to some of the stuff - on both sides in America - it is all pretty bad.
The trouble is that idiots fixate on it, believe it to be true and then try and do something about it and with gun - no - laws in America as they are, is it any surprise that some kid didn't think twice before taking a pot shot at Trump.
He probably thought he was helping the world.
It is all crazy and they need to wind down the personal stuff and words like "bullseye" from Biden on Trump and the BBC guy here posting that Biden should take Trump out, should be treated severely.
How the BBC guy still has a job I have no idea.

This is nothing new,Aneurin Bevan Health Minister and Housing Minister 1945 onwards said that the Tories were lower than vermin. The press the next day said he called the Tories vermin, so he called a press conference the following day to explain,he did not call them vermin they are MUCH lower than vermin.

Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jul 24 1.11pm
Originally posted by beak This is nothing new,Aneurin Bevan Health Minister and Housing Minister 1945 onwards said that the Tories were lower than vermin. The press the next day said he called the Tories vermin, so he called a press conference the following day to explain,he did not call them vermin they are MUCH lower than vermin. Is this whataboutism or are you confirming that the left have always been tossers? I'm not sure. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jul 2024 1.11pm)

Hrolf The Ganger

15 Jul 24 1.11pm

Originally posted by beak

Is this whataboutism or are you confirming that the left have always been tossers?

I'm not sure.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jul 2024 1.11pm)

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 1.48pm
Originally posted by Matov One thing is for certain, given the response from many s*-Libs, is that we are heading for a shooting war at somestage. Because if they start celebrating attempted political assassinations then you have to assume that we are well past the stage of Jaw Jaw. These f*ers would have been literally celebrating in the streets if Trump had been killed. There can be no more giving them the benefit of the doubt. Never has the friend/enemy distinction been so vitally important to grasp. Edited by Matov (15 Jul 2024 11.24am) I have seen no such responses. Mind you I don’t go looking for them either so maybe in odd corners, that are the polar opposite of this one, they exist. What’s for sure is that mainstream opinion won’t any more be celebrating this than celebrating any other shooting. The way to defeat bad ideas is with better ones. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 1.48pm

Originally posted by Matov

One thing is for certain, given the response from many s***-Libs, is that we are heading for a shooting war at somestage. Because if they start celebrating attempted political assassinations then you have to assume that we are well past the stage of Jaw Jaw.

These f***ers would have been literally celebrating in the streets if Trump had been killed. There can be no more giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Never has the friend/enemy distinction been so vitally important to grasp.

Edited by Matov (15 Jul 2024 11.24am)

I have seen no such responses. Mind you I don’t go looking for them either so maybe in odd corners, that are the polar opposite of this one, they exist.

What’s for sure is that mainstream opinion won’t any more be celebrating this than celebrating any other shooting. The way to defeat bad ideas is with better ones.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 1.52pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Blimey, that's a new one . . . It isn’t but the difference with Trump is that they must be mates first and only. Competency is not required. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 1.52pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Blimey, that's a new one . . .

It isn’t but the difference with Trump is that they must be mates first and only. Competency is not required.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 24 1.59pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It isn’t but the difference with Trump is that they must be mates first and only. Competency is not required. Whoosh This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jul 24 1.59pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It isn’t but the difference with Trump is that they must be mates first and only. Competency is not required.

*Whoosh*

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 2.10pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin The rhetoric in politics both here and abroad is pretty vile at times. From Angela Rayner calling the Tories scum, in parliament, to some of the stuff - on both sides in America - it is all pretty bad. The trouble is that idiots fixate on it, believe it to be true and then try and do something about it and with gun - no - laws in America as they are, is it any surprise that some kid didn't think twice before taking a pot shot at Trump. He probably thought he was helping the world. It is all crazy and they need to wind down the personal stuff and words like "bullseye" from Biden on Trump and the BBC guy here posting that Biden should take Trump out, should be treated severely. How the BBC guy still has a job I have no idea. What amazes me is how readily people here, and on the right generally, are unable to determine context. The “BBC guy” was David Aaronovitch posting in his own name on X in the light of the Supreme Court ruling about Presidential immunity. It was clearly satire, a parody about where the limits of Presidential power now lies. He was by far not the only one to make this point. It was not a serious suggestion. It was a serious point about a concerning development. Reacting to it with demands for bans and sackings is simply ridiculous and evidence of a narrow mind. Trump suggesting he could get away with shooting someone on 5th Avenue wasn’t treated by the left as a serious threat he would do it, was it? They didn’t demand he be locked up for that. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 2.10pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

The rhetoric in politics both here and abroad is pretty vile at times.
From Angela Rayner calling the Tories scum, in parliament, to some of the stuff - on both sides in America - it is all pretty bad.
The trouble is that idiots fixate on it, believe it to be true and then try and do something about it and with gun - no - laws in America as they are, is it any surprise that some kid didn't think twice before taking a pot shot at Trump.
He probably thought he was helping the world.
It is all crazy and they need to wind down the personal stuff and words like "bullseye" from Biden on Trump and the BBC guy here posting that Biden should take Trump out, should be treated severely.
How the BBC guy still has a job I have no idea.

What amazes me is how readily people here, and on the right generally, are unable to determine context.

The “BBC guy” was David Aaronovitch posting in his own name on X in the light of the Supreme Court ruling about Presidential immunity. It was clearly satire, a parody about where the limits of Presidential power now lies. He was by far not the only one to make this point. It was not a serious suggestion. It was a serious point about a concerning development.

Reacting to it with demands for bans and sackings is simply ridiculous and evidence of a narrow mind.

Trump suggesting he could get away with shooting someone on 5th Avenue wasn’t treated by the left as a serious threat he would do it, was it? They didn’t demand he be locked up for that.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Houston Eagle Houston 15 Jul 24 2.13pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What you actually already know is that I am not a troll. I have posted here for many years. That I hold opinions that differ from the majority here is obvious, but out in the real world mine are much closer to the majority view than those inside the right wing bubble that dominates here. It’s you that’s unusual, not me. This is not a site devoted to right wing politics. It is a forum of the football club I have supported for 70 years. I have belonged since its inception. Trolls deliberately disrupt. I don’t. I post my opinions. Opinions of a fellow supporter. You don’t agree with them. I don’t agree with yours. That’s life! I personally don’t think you’re a Troll and see your commitment towards the club we have all supported since childhood. I consider myself a very normal middle of the road citizen who has worked every day for the betterment of his family. Not right wing in any way just normal and average. I have little affiliation to Trump although did quite like the “celebrity apprentice”. Joe, his political cohorts, immigration, foreign policy, inflation, WOKE ideals, media bias etc have driven me that way. Living this on a daily basis in the US is draining. You’re not alone in your comments and beliefs but no less palatable than your mirror image on the right!!! The “majority” of normal Americans are in the middle forced to choose a side! I have chosen mine, and will live with the consequences!!

Houston Eagle

Houston 15 Jul 24 2.13pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What you actually already know is that I am not a troll.

I have posted here for many years. That I hold opinions that differ from the majority here is obvious, but out in the real world mine are much closer to the majority view than those inside the right wing bubble that dominates here. It’s you that’s unusual, not me.

This is not a site devoted to right wing politics. It is a forum of the football club I have supported for 70 years. I have belonged since its inception.

Trolls deliberately disrupt. I don’t. I post my opinions. Opinions of a fellow supporter. You don’t agree with them. I don’t agree with yours. That’s life!

I personally don’t think you’re a Troll and see your commitment towards the club we have all supported since childhood.

I consider myself a very normal middle of the road citizen who has worked every day for the betterment of his family. Not right wing in any way just normal and average.

I have little affiliation to Trump although did quite like the “celebrity apprentice”. Joe, his political cohorts, immigration, foreign policy, inflation, WOKE ideals, media bias etc have driven me that way.

Living this on a daily basis in the US is draining. You’re not alone in your comments and beliefs but no less palatable than your mirror image on the right!!! The “majority” of normal Americans are in the middle forced to choose a side!

I have chosen mine, and will live with the consequences!!

eaglesdare 15 Jul 24 2.15pm
My my the plot thickens Attachment: GSdcIXnWwAAgZss.jpeg (104.00Kb)

eaglesdare

15 Jul 24 2.15pm

My my the plot thickens

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Teddy Eagle 15 Jul 24 2.28pm
Originally posted by eaglesdare My my the plot thickens Not big enough. He'd need a catering sized drum to go full Reservoir Dog.

Teddy Eagle

15 Jul 24 2.28pm

Originally posted by eaglesdare

My my the plot thickens

Not big enough. He'd need a catering sized drum to go full Reservoir Dog.

Stirlingsays 15 Jul 24 2.50pm
I'm hearing that there was a 'protect trans kids' sign in the window of the property the shooter lived at. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

15 Jul 24 2.50pm

I'm hearing that there was a 'protect trans kids' sign in the window of the property the shooter lived at.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 15 Jul 24 3.05pm
Originally posted by palace99 wow, just wow. The American economy seems to be doing quite well from the data i can see abortions have been the woman's right to choose for c50 years now they are the big problems. Trump, who is late 70s and essentially lives on a diet of McDonalds, has made many gaffs himself of late and has court cases piling up in addition to the ones he has already lost. If he gets back in he will enable Putin to take over Ukraine (is he already a Russian asset - the FBI are unsure!) which will destabilise the whole of Europe and potentially further afield e.g. China in Taiwan, he will reverse any climate change initiatives and will put all his mates into senior positions. To say the US economy is doing quite well is the 'wow' factor here. Sure Trump makes gaffs, however he isn't in cognitive decline and he hasn't had a massive media machine lying about it. Considering Biden is president the fact that the US left have been covering for his decline for years sums up their moral position entirely....they have no leg to stand on with Trump as they have lied enough for satan himself. Excuse me but calling Trump a Russian asset after security services have wasted tens of millions to find no evidence for it speaks to us that facts don't mean anything to you. Russia has already destroyed Ukraine as a country and it could all have been avoided. Trump will bring peace to this war, but no....Russia won't be taking all of Ukraine....People like you and me will be paying for it for generations to come. All because the State department have had a policy of regime change in Russia and having failed now have us pay for it.....along with higher energy and food prices. But hey, you keep blaming Trump. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jul 2024 3.06pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

15 Jul 24 3.05pm

Originally posted by palace99

wow, just wow.

The American economy seems to be doing quite well from the data i can see abortions have been the woman's right to choose for c50 years now they are the big problems.

Trump, who is late 70s and essentially lives on a diet of McDonalds, has made many gaffs himself of late and has court cases piling up in addition to the ones he has already lost.

If he gets back in he will enable Putin to take over Ukraine (is he already a Russian asset - the FBI are unsure!) which will destabilise the whole of Europe and potentially further afield e.g. China in Taiwan, he will reverse any climate change initiatives and will put all his mates into senior positions.

To say the US economy is doing quite well is the 'wow' factor here.

Sure Trump makes gaffs, however he isn't in cognitive decline and he hasn't had a massive media machine lying about it.

Considering Biden is president the fact that the US left have been covering for his decline for years sums up their moral position entirely....they have no leg to stand on with Trump as they have lied enough for satan himself.

Excuse me but calling Trump a Russian asset after security services have wasted tens of millions to find no evidence for it speaks to us that facts don't mean anything to you.

Russia has already destroyed Ukraine as a country and it could all have been avoided. Trump will bring peace to this war, but no....Russia won't be taking all of Ukraine....People like you and me will be paying for it for generations to come.

All because the State department have had a policy of regime change in Russia and having failed now have us pay for it.....along with higher energy and food prices.

But hey, you keep blaming Trump.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jul 2024 3.06pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 15 Jul 24 3.09pm
If Aaronovitch had made an assassination comment about Biden they would have sacked him. I would have criticised the comment but not sacked him.....However, the left have double standards on free speech. If it's their tribe their attitude is different and the excuses come in....if it's their political enemies they always seek to punish. Stick labels on lamp-posts go away for two years and get banned from seeing your kids.....Talk about the democrats offing Trump and....suddenly it's satire. Yeah...we see you. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jul 2024 3.13pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

15 Jul 24 3.09pm

If Aaronovitch had made an assassination comment about Biden they would have sacked him.

I would have criticised the comment but not sacked him.....However, the left have double standards on free speech.

If it's their tribe their attitude is different and the excuses come in....if it's their political enemies they always seek to punish.

Stick labels on lamp-posts go away for two years and get banned from seeing your kids.....Talk about the democrats offing Trump and....suddenly it's satire.

Yeah...we see you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jul 2024 3.13pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

rob1969 Banstead Surrey 15 Jul 24 3.17pm
Originally posted by YT Too ambitious. He should have gone for the body shot. Surely he's watched 'The Day of the Jackal'. My thought too - he wasn't a pro!

rob1969

Banstead Surrey 15 Jul 24 3.17pm

Originally posted by YT

Too ambitious. He should have gone for the body shot. Surely he's watched 'The Day of the Jackal'.

My thought too - he wasn't a pro!

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jul 24 3.22pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'm hearing that there was a 'protect trans kids' sign in the window of the property the shooter lived at. Mental health then. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jul 24 3.22pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm hearing that there was a 'protect trans kids' sign in the window of the property the shooter lived at.

Mental health then.

Red and Blue Army!

Stirlingsays 15 Jul 24 3.30pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Mental health then. Probably crying as he pulled the trigger. The counter sniper made a mess of his head. However, considering how fast he was shot after shooting they must have known his position....dodgey. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

15 Jul 24 3.30pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Mental health then.

Probably crying as he pulled the trigger.

The counter sniper made a mess of his head.

However, considering how fast he was shot after shooting they must have known his position....dodgey.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

silvertop Portishead 15 Jul 24 3.30pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Mental health then. Possibly other evidence pointing that way?

silvertop

Portishead 15 Jul 24 3.30pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Mental health then.

Possibly other evidence pointing that way?

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 4.03pm
Originally posted by Houston Eagle I personally don’t think you’re a Troll and see your commitment towards the club we have all supported since childhood. I consider myself a very normal middle of the road citizen who has worked every day for the betterment of his family. Not right wing in any way just normal and average. I have little affiliation to Trump although did quite like the “celebrity apprentice”. Joe, his political cohorts, immigration, foreign policy, inflation, WOKE ideals, media bias etc have driven me that way. Living this on a daily basis in the US is draining. You’re not alone in your comments and beliefs but no less palatable than your mirror image on the right!!! The “majority” of normal Americans are in the middle forced to choose a side! I have chosen mine, and will live with the consequences!! I understand and respect that. I have realised you aren’t part of the “base” but I personally could never accept anyone like Trump and don’t agree that Biden has done a bad job. I think he gets a bad press. Forced to choose between the two it would always be Biden, but I would prefer almost anyone to Trump, so that is not a ringing endorsement. Which is why I hope and expect the Democrats to find a way of putting up another candidate who “normal” Americans can rally around. They need to, for the sake of everyone. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 4.03pm

Originally posted by Houston Eagle

I personally don’t think you’re a Troll and see your commitment towards the club we have all supported since childhood.

I consider myself a very normal middle of the road citizen who has worked every day for the betterment of his family. Not right wing in any way just normal and average.

I have chosen mine, and will live with the consequences!!

I understand and respect that. I have realised you aren’t part of the “base” but I personally could never accept anyone like Trump and don’t agree that Biden has done a bad job. I think he gets a bad press. Forced to choose between the two it would always be Biden, but I would prefer almost anyone to Trump, so that is not a ringing endorsement.

Which is why I hope and expect the Democrats to find a way of putting up another candidate who “normal” Americans can rally around. They need to, for the sake of everyone.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 4.11pm
There we go again. Complete context blindness. Is it a disease that particularly affects right sided thinkers? Aaronovich did NOT suggest “offing”Trump! He made a farcical observation as a consequence of the Supreme Court ruling. Very accurately in my view. It deserves appreciation. Not censorship. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 4.11pm

There we go again. Complete context blindness. Is it a disease that particularly affects right sided thinkers?

Aaronovich did NOT suggest “offing”Trump!

He made a farcical observation as a consequence of the Supreme Court ruling.

Very accurately in my view.

It deserves appreciation. Not censorship.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 24 4.24pm
Originally posted by eaglesdare My my the plot thickens Haha. He was apparently spotted at a Wetherspoons in the morning so adds up. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 24 4.24pm

Originally posted by eaglesdare

My my the plot thickens

Haha.

He was apparently spotted at a Wetherspoons in the morning so adds up.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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