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DanH SW2 04 Nov 20 2.33pm | |
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Can't believe I've just been whooshed.
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Nov 20 2.36pm | |
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Claims of dodgy votes for a Delaware journalist apparently. Also strange stuff happening in Arizona. Would anyone be surprised if the Clinton mob tried something like this? They are dirty to the core. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Nov 2020 2.36pm)
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DanH SW2 04 Nov 20 2.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Claims of dodgy votes for a Deleware journalist apparently. Also strange stuff happening in Arizona. Would anyone be surprised if the Clinton mob tried something like this? They are dirty to the core. Did you not see Trump's speech this morning?
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Maine Eagle USA 04 Nov 20 2.37pm | |
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Different States are counting in different ways. Any state counting mail in votes last is going to see a blue uptick. EVERY state can count tiny rural counties quickly while struggle in big cities - pretty obvious. Trump gets rural America hands down, but the cities and suburbs are not with him. Biden now leads in Wisconsin and Michigan (few minutes ago) along with a slim lead in Nevada. Lots of urban and mail in (heavily favoring democrats generally) are not counted around Philly, Detroit and Atlanta. Could go either way but I would rather be a democrat currently.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Nov 20 2.37pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Did you not see Trump's speech this morning? I didn't. I need sleep.
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Maine Eagle USA 04 Nov 20 2.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Claims of dodgy votes for a Delaware journalist apparently. Also strange stuff happening in Arizona. Would anyone be surprised if the Clinton mob tried something like this? They are dirty to the core. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Nov 2020 2.36pm) Go back to bed, Donald. Didnt know Trump was on here. The strange thing happening in AZ is Trump getting resoundingly repudiated. Edited by Maine Eagle (04 Nov 2020 2.40pm)
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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DanH SW2 04 Nov 20 2.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I didn't. I need sleep. Was when the sun was coming up so the coffin must have been calling.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 04 Nov 20 2.46pm | |
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whats happened to stirling? anybody? He would should all over this thread.Is he well?
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Maine Eagle USA 04 Nov 20 2.48pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
whats happened to stirling? anybody? He would should all over this thread.Is he well? Stirly just hates "bias against Trump" so I am sure he is loathed to chime in here. Hrolfy is best buds with Stirly, so he probably knows.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 04 Nov 20 2.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Stirly just hates "bias against Trump" so I am sure he is loathed to chime in here. Hrolfy is best buds with Stirly, so he probably knows. Thanks maine, i haven"t seen him on here for weeks! On this thread, im feeling a little more confident joe can scrape through, nearly chucked in the towel after florida, but you never know!
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Spiderman Horsham 04 Nov 20 3.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don't think it's either of those things. I am a member of several Trump-supporting FB groups so am well aware of their thinking. Much of it demonstrates a poor grasp of reality. They believe all the claims that Trump makes, distrust the media and circulate outragious conspiracy theories, the origin of which are obscure. The Latinos have a strong dislike of anything that smells of socialism and that is milked until the cow is dry. They are passionate and encouraged to mislead pollsters. They though are real victims of the attempt by Trump to treat his opinions and truth as equivalent. Turnout is always key and my guess is that they have achieved a higher turnout. Democracy itself is under threat. In the short term I worry hugely over what will now happen in the USA and the C19 crisis. So again all Trump voters are stupid! No surprise coming from you. After this debacle, which has made the US a laughing stock, the country will be in complete meltdown and turmoil.
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Matov 04 Nov 20 3.31pm | |
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If Biden gets more electoral college seats should Trump concede? Yes. That is the way democracy works. Have the Democrats, with their Deep State backers, gamed this election? Then without a shadow of a doubt. These postal votes stink, they really do but unless large, wide scaled fraud can be proved (and to be fair, I think any claims do need to be stress tested through the courts) then the result has to stand. All I do know is that if large states like Texas and Florida can collect and then count their votes and give a result on the day, then I struggle to comprehend why others cannot. Covid is just a BS excuse. And in any other 'normal' election cycle, Trump would have strolled this election. Biden will probably be President. But with a Senate that is dominated by Republicans. He is a lame duck leader presciding over a country riven in half with some serious questions to be asked about the tactics that got him into the job. NOBODY emerges from this with any kind of credit. And with the biggest irony of all being that the most maligned and slated group of people in 2020 aka White males, are the ones who perhaps have defeated Trump with his share of the vote in almost every other category actually increasing. Which when you think for a man who has been constantly derided as being both sexist and racist is not a bad legacy. Democracy is the real loser today, no matter what the outcome. Trump has built up an almost cult like following and they will not take this result lightly. A shocking election and perhaps a lesson for all of us. With those who did their best to over turn the Brexit result from 2016 along with cheering on the fruitless attempts to somehow impeach Trump over the last four years no doubt crowing about 'democracy'. Do any of us honestly care anymore about a truly 'fair' outcome? Or are we all so twisted up in the cylce of fear and loathing stoked by all sides in our political process, allied with a Social Media industry who care for nothing else other than click bait that we have simply abandoned the notion of agreeing to not agree but to do so in a civilised manner? Guilty as charged here. Have to admit that. Need to change that. I have seen what a real civil war looks like. Stood in charred ruins, still able to smell the fire in the air they destroyed the roof (you want to 'cleanse' a village or town of people you don't like then you drive them out of their homes, set fire to their roofs and let nature do the rest. Nobody is every setting foot back in that property again). We are heading that way. We truly are. Unless we somehow all pull back from the brink and accept the results of elections, even if we do not agree with them.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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