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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 May 19 2.55pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Aren't you the little activist.

Another nutcase who just can't accept a democratic decision.

It wasn't a democratic decision despite all the fake claims to the contrary.

To repeat, for the umpteenth time, referendums have no status in our democracy. Democracy is vested solely in our Parliament.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 12 May 19 4.11pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

So Farage was uncomfortable with his past,I think such questions are relevant especially the breaking point poster, a major stain on his political integrity, as it's important to know about the person you're voting for, most of his disciples can't see the wolf in sheep's clothing

indeed someone believes Jewish bankers started WW2. Fell apart like a cheap suit.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 May 19 5.29pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It wasn't a democratic decision despite all the fake claims to the contrary.

To repeat, for the umpteenth time, referendums have no status in our democracy. Democracy is vested solely in our Parliament.


That is bollocks and you know it.

You don't have a referendum unless you are going to respect the result and that is exactly what was promised. I don't care about your mealy mouthed technicalities.
You would be claiming foul if a Remain victory was ignored and you know it, so for the umpteenth time, spare us your bad loser claptrap.

It is pathetic.

Go Nigel go.

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 12 May 19 5.36pm

Some very interesting polling coming out of late


European Parliament
voting intention:
BREX: 34% (+6)
LAB: 21% (-7)
LDEM: 12% (+5)
CON: 11% (-3)
GRN: 8% (+2)
UKIP: 4% (+1)
CHUK: 3% (-4) via @OpiniumResearch, 08 May


Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 27% (-6)
BREX: 20% (+6)
CON: 19% (-4)
LDEM: 14% (+7)
CHUK: 7% (-2)
GRN: 5% (+2)
UKIP: 3% (-2)
via @ComRes 9 May

Edited by dollardays (12 May 2019 5.37pm)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 12 May 19 6.27pm

Originally posted by dollardays

Some very interesting polling coming out of late


European Parliament
voting intention:
BREX: 34% (+6)
LAB: 21% (-7)
LDEM: 12% (+5)
CON: 11% (-3)
GRN: 8% (+2)
UKIP: 4% (+1)
CHUK: 3% (-4) via @OpiniumResearch, 08 May


Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 27% (-6)
BREX: 20% (+6)
CON: 19% (-4)
LDEM: 14% (+7)
CHUK: 7% (-2)
GRN: 5% (+2)
UKIP: 3% (-2)
via @ComRes 9 May

Edited by dollardays (12 May 2019 5.37pm)

That is interesting. 48 percent for leave parties and 44 for Remain.....if we include Labour as remain.

The only way I can see the Tories improving their vote potential is if May resigns or gives a realistic date of departure.

In terms of a Westminster vote, unless May was still there I see the Brexit party vote as very soft and of the moment.

 


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DANGERCLOSE Flag London 12 May 19 6.42pm

 

Pussay Patrol Flag 12 May 19 7.22pm

Piers Morgan talks about authenticity, hmmm

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Edited by Pussay Patrol (12 May 2019 7.23pm)

 


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.TUX. Flag 12 May 19 7.49pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

MPs are not delegates. It's their responsibility to do what they consider is in their constituents and the country's best interests at the time they are taking the decision. If circumstances change then it's their duty to react to that.

Circumstances have changed. We have a hung Parliament and a negotiated deal that cannot command a majority. A "no-deal" Brexit doesn't command a majority either.

Some may feel that always voting in line with the referendum result is that duty, whilst others don't.

It's a mess but to claim that the MPs aren't delivering what was promised is far too simplistic. It's what you want but it isn't what the MPs believe is in your interests and it's them who hold the responsibility.

You get worse.
Make that countryside walk a long one.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 12 May 19 8.18pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Only you can really answer that. I think you were fed disinformation so were not in a position to know.

maybe he's gone away to think about it

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 May 19 8.35pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Only you can really answer that. I think you were fed disinformation so were not in a position to know.

I will answer it, I was always in favour of a referendum and was going to vote leave before any disinformation was served upon me. I was in a position to know and am more than comfortable with my decision so please don't try to insinuate that I was led and don't have enough brain cells to make a informed decision

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 May 19 8.35pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


That is bollocks and you know it.

You don't have a referendum unless you are going to respect the result and that is exactly what was promised. I don't care about your mealy mouthed technicalities.
You would be claiming foul if a Remain victory was ignored and you know it, so for the umpteenth time, spare us your bad loser claptrap.

It is pathetic.

Go Nigel go.

Untrue. You can hold a referendum to gauge public opinion. You can hold one, as Cameron did, in an attempt to quieten a noisy wing of a party and stop a possible drift away to another party. Cameron got it badly wrong by not factoring in how much easier it is to sell change and so much harder to sell the status quo.

A remain "victory" would not have to be ignored because nothing would need to be changed. It's the difficulty involved in finding a pathway to a Brexit that Parliament can accept that's the problem.

Our current problem is that the electorate are again being fed lies and no-one is calling them out aggressively enough.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 May 19 8.36pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

maybe he's gone away to think about it

I was actually at the game today! I have replied

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 May 19 8.39pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

You get worse.
Make that countryside walk a long one.


Sometimes telling an uncomfortable truth that has previously not been identified unsettles people.

Truth it is though.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 May 19 8.44pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I will answer it, I was always in favour of a referendum and was going to vote leave before any disinformation was served upon me. I was in a position to know and am more than comfortable with my decision so please don't try to insinuate that I was led and don't have enough brain cells to make a informed decision

Fine. There was a decent number who were always opposed to the EU. To get to 48% though needed a big swing and it was the Leave campaign which did that. Change is always an attractive option to those willing to "give things a go". Add the lies and the weakness of the Remain campaign and they got the result. Just! Doesn't mean it was wise, or indeed it is still valid today.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 May 19 8.53pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Fine. There was a decent number who were always opposed to the EU. To get to 48% though needed a big swing and it was the Leave campaign which did that. Change is always an attractive option to those willing to "give things a go". Add the lies and the weakness of the Remain campaign and they got the result. Just! Doesn't mean it was wise, or indeed it is still valid today.

So you admit the Remain campaign lied! I hope PP and Steeleye are reading this. As for it being valid, please give it a rest

 

.TUX. Flag 12 May 19 9.00pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


Sometimes telling an uncomfortable truth that has previously not been identified unsettles people.

Truth it is though.

It's your uncomfortable truth bud, not mine (or many others).
You put your faith in politicians despite the ''uncomfortable truth'' that our lives are getting worse, not better, because of politicians.
I've asked you before why is it that those we've followed are better-off than us and those that follow us will be far worse off? You never answer because you can't............despite my continual prompting.

'D' is also for 'Deluded'.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 12 May 19 9.25pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

It's your uncomfortable truth bud, not mine (or many others).
You put your faith in politicians despite the ''uncomfortable truth'' that our lives are getting worse, not better, because of politicians.
I've asked you before why is it that those we've followed are better-off than us and those that follow us will be far worse off? You never answer because you can't............despite my continual prompting.

'D' is also for 'Deluded'.

Perhaps "D" is for "don't give a s***" as to why you never get an answer?

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 12 May 19 9.28pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I will answer it, I was always in favour of a referendum and was going to vote leave before any disinformation was served upon me. I was in a position to know and am more than comfortable with my decision so please don't try to insinuate that I was led and don't have enough brain cells to make a informed decision

Don't tell me, you knew about the Irish Border back before 2016 and knew it would sort it itself out one way or the other?

 


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.TUX. Flag 12 May 19 9.32pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Perhaps "D" is for "don't give a s***" as to why you never get an answer?

Why are we continually poorer than those we've followed tells you everything you need to know about politics/politicians.

'D' is for 'Dumb'?


 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 May 19 9.36pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Untrue. You can hold a referendum to gauge public opinion. You can hold one, as Cameron did, in an attempt to quieten a noisy wing of a party and stop a possible drift away to another party. Cameron got it badly wrong by not factoring in how much easier it is to sell change and so much harder to sell the status quo.

A remain "victory" would not have to be ignored because nothing would need to be changed. It's the difficulty involved in finding a pathway to a Brexit that Parliament can accept that's the problem.

Our current problem is that the electorate are again being fed lies and no-one is calling them out aggressively enough.

You live in your own world of rationalisation.

Great. Because in your delusion, you will always be right.


 

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