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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
As you know the remain vote will be split and the leave vote will generally go to Farage, but we can certainly look at the totals once everything is counted up. What it tells me in general is that the groundswell that became attached to the Brexit movement in 2016 is continuing on at pace. Farage in his affluent pad in Chelsea, fresh from his latest business class trip to the States, has become the ultimate supporter of the common man, just like billionaire Donald Trump. He rails against the establishment and the elites. Some people genuinely believe that with a vote for Brexit, and now a vote for the brexit party, they are emulating "V" from "V for Vendetta" and becoming some kind of anti-elitist crusader who will tear down the fabric of this unfair society which caters to elites only and then eagerly donning their guy fawkes mask, will march on parliament to observe it being blown up. Many, many people in England are unhappy with their lot in life. Rightly or wrongly Brexit became their calling card and EU membership was the dragon which must be slain, to return to the glory of bygone times when the British Empire imperiously ruled. Foreigners became the problem which has to be solved, which if solved, would usher in a new dawn in Britain and make everyone native born's life better, happier, healthier and richer. Brexit has become the silver bullet to solve all of life's problems. Dont get me wrong, I know there are huge issues with inequality and poverty, and that the amount of people who want to migrate to the UK definitely causes issues. In the simple mind, Brexit will fix all of these issues, and once we finally reach the promised land of non EU membership, everything will be so much better, cleaner, and nicer. I won't read beyond the bold, it has nothing to with nothing. You think I or anyone cares how much or little money farage and trump has.
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
I won't read beyond the bold, it has nothing to with nothing. You think I or anyone cares how much or little money farage and trump has. I think you are thinking of drivel. Dribble is what Farage will do if we ever actually leave the EU.
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I think you are thinking of drivel. Dribble is what Farage will do if we ever actually leave the EU. I don't know what Farage will do.....but I'll be getting frigging p1ssed with a smile on me mush!
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I don't know what Farage will do.....but I'll be getting frigging p1ssed with a smile on me mush! Get a dribble on, Stirlingsays!!
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
They voted to remain by 62%. Therefore much as I appreciate Jimenez making his edit, he was wrong to do so. Plenty of Scots are pissed off with their lot in life. They think they are owed something better, and in many cases they are. Plenty of them get up every morning and trudge off to a job they hate and then trudge home. The difference between the Scottish and the English in the 2016 vote is that the Scottish didnt elevate leaving the EU to the lofty heights that people like Farage did and still does, who seem to say that once we have left the EU everyone's worries and problems will disappear overnight. Once we are no longer a member of the EU, in Farage's mindseye, every fountain in every city center in England will flow with champagne. Unemployment will come down to 0%, everyone will instantly get richer, healthier and happier. Each pavement will be relaid with gold, and beautiful maidens will adorn the gold streets singing and playing lutes. Dont think anyone has ever said this, although if you'd like to post up a link I am prepared to be educated on the matter......or is it just DRIVEL again?
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Get a dribble on, Stirlingsays!!
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
This whisks me back to that heady night in 2016. You are hitting the nail on the head here, and showing precisely why a 2nd referendum is inevitable. Yes voting for Faragism is a vote for brexit, clue is in the party name. The only problem is that doesn’t move the issue along at all as the last 3 years have been spent trying to pick a particular type of Brexit, and unilaterally failing to do so. The brexit party will win big tomorrow, but it makes no difference to anything. Do you really believe that? Or are you not thinking past the end of your nose? Lets say that there's a 2nd referendum and that the remain vote wins...BUT we have a tranch of 40 or so BREXIT MEP's in place...that's going to cause mayhem for the EU. It'll just throw a massive spanner in the EU bureaucratic system...but then as you see it, teh vote tomorrow will not make any difference...but then i guess its hard to have your finger on the pulse from way over there..
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The BBC are saying there's talk of a cabinet move against May.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The BBC are saying there's talk of a cabinet move against May. If that's what the BBC propaganda mill is saying , then Theresa May is already toppled. She is now only a puppet masquerading as a PM while the real movers and shakers shore up their power base.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The BBC are saying there's talk of a cabinet move against May. Yup and Mrs May approves. She never liked that cabinet against that wall and wants it moved to the other side tuh women and furniture. Oh err not what you meant sorry..
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Originally posted by Badger11
Yup and Mrs May approves. She never liked that cabinet against that wall and wants it moved to the other side tuh women and furniture. Oh err not what you meant sorry..
She's stuck around so long I wouldn't be surprised if there are some skeletons in it.
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
If that's what the BBC propaganda mill is saying , then Theresa May is already toppled. She is now only a puppet masquerading as a PM while the real movers and shakers shore up their power base.
34' 1440p wide screen curved computer monitor you mean. I leave the 65 incher to the much loved hooligans in the lounge. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2019 5.59pm)
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Exciting times.
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Do you really believe that? Or are you not thinking past the end of your nose? Lets say that there's a 2nd referendum and that the remain vote wins...BUT we have a tranch of 40 or so BREXIT MEP's in place...that's going to cause mayhem for the EU. It'll just throw a massive spanner in the EU bureaucratic system...but then as you see it, teh vote tomorrow will not make any difference...but then i guess its hard to have your finger on the pulse from way over there.. Having a host of Brexit MEPs wont make any difference at all to what happens on Brexit. The only way out of this mess is a 2nd vote. In that vote, I hardly think any remainers are going to vote leave just because the Brexit party did well in the MEP elections. Ergo - it wont change a thing about that vote. I would like to see Farage try to operate if we do end up remaining in the EU. If that does occur, in the next wave of MEP elections, the Brexit MEPs will likely be swept from power as people realize if we are staying in we better make the best of it, rather than have a bunch of one issue double agents running around there trying to poison the well.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Exciting times. No leader of a party was ever fired the day before an election were they? Reminds me of the Pulis situation although he quit. They will get hammered tomorrow, then she will get ousted surely, on the back of a historic defeat. Gove or Johnson cannot renegotiate the WA though, and there is no majority for no deal, so it doesnt change much really.
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
No leader of a party was ever fired the day before an election were they? Reminds me of the Pulis situation although he quit. They will get hammered tomorrow, then she will get ousted surely, on the back of a historic defeat. Gove or Johnson cannot renegotiate the WA though, and there is no majority for no deal, so it doesnt change much really.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's good for you to read and learn the opinions of others. Broadens the mind and might even change it. We can all live in hope! Pot and kettle...oh the irony
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Last time I checked Scotland voted to remain in the EU. You sound like the SNP..it may come as a surprise but Scotland is part of the UK (they had a referendum remember) and therefore are bound by the vote. Are you saying they should be allowed to remain? If so, those areas that voted to leave should be allowed to leave, right?
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