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 Tickled pink  Cornwall 07 Oct 20 9.31pm |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
Can you name the clubs who are a similar size to us who have progressed further than we have over the past 4 years? LBW, I think he's out.
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| Rachid Rachid Rachid 07 Oct 20 9.47pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Sorry, I totally disagree about Benteke here (but that is what this board is for). He might be crap at finishing but he does hold the ball well and makes a nuisance of himself. He also draws centre halfs to him which Ayew does not. I offer you his 95th minute contribution against Wolves at home last season although there appeared to be some improvement against Brighton and Watford. As it happens I would have thrown him on against against Chelsea rather than make the subs Roy did but lets not pretend that would have been any more than a desperate roll of the dice rather than suggest it's some tactical shortfall on Roy's part who has made attacking subs in all three games prior. A fair few have been holding the lack of chances for Riedewald against Roy and it just maybe he was trying to give him some minutes against some of the world's best and see what he could do knowing we were beaten.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 07 Oct 20 11.59pm |
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Originally posted by spartakev2
Wow well done, proved me wrong. Cant remember that. But doesn't change my point that on saturday he would have been a good option to bring on to hold the ball up Make your mind up then. He's s*** if he plays, and he's s*** if he doesn't. Hodgson is s*** if he starts him, and he's s*** if he doesn't bring him on. wtf?
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 08 Oct 20 12.01am |
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I must admit Sparkykevicus, you are a funny guy.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 08 Oct 20 12.29am |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Calm down Timothy. No need to be on the perpetual warpath. Who rattled your cage? I'm calm, unlike the "SACK ROY!" bunch. What's your stance BJ?
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. I piped up a time or two a few pages back but it's fast moving! I get the perpetual push to either move on from Roy or somehow get him to change his style and become more dynamic and daring (neither or which is likely), but I'm not a world away from your stance really. 'Roy Out' predictably accompanies any bad result, but he's given a lot to the club and his critics would be hard pushed to deny that his 'steady' style has got us to where we are today, and kept us there.
))| Eaglecoops CR3 08 Oct 20 8.05am |
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Originally posted by majorkaios
What a load of drivel from 'the cup half empties' Palace Supporters. Just a minute, why are people blaming Roy for defensive errors??? Human error is a factor, and inhuman to expect players to be Robots. Regarding subs ... sure, got 90 million??? It's awful, that as a mere Palace fan, this thread is up for the topic yet again. Negative people here in this thread think that the money being spent is not prudently sufficient, or is the Gaffers fault. Just because you are great at tactics or finance. Does in my opinion amount to poppy-cock and balderdash.
Yes, I am proud we are in the prem, which I may add has made a healthy contribution by way of Managers and Internationals to the history of the football league. But I'm far more proud we are known as a club with honest fans and honest players that play honest football. I motion to close this thread today. Edited by majorkaios (08 Oct 2020 3.25am) Edited by majorkaios (08 Oct 2020 3.51am) I motion to add that you haven’t added anything to the debate at all. This wanting to close a thread thing, are you one of the cancel brigade? Threads like this are important to see the opposing views on the subject. If you don’t like it, don’t bother reading it.
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| Midlands Eagle 08 Oct 20 8.54am |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
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Goal Machine  The Cronx 08 Oct 20 9.28am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
You haven't answered the question. I can name about 12 teams our size who have gone backwards over the past 4 years and only Southampton who are on par with us. You could argue Leicester and Wolves but IMO they are bigger clubs. Its not as easy as some people think to keep climbing up the table as its simple not possible for all teams to do it!
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| Midlands Eagle 08 Oct 20 9.51am |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
Perhaps but we haven't addressed the main problems which are scoring goals and the age of the squad, I know that we have bought a young crock to play in defence but until he gets fit we will have to continue to rely on Dad's Army. Bats joined us less than a week after scoring twice for Belgium but he has had to make do with five minutes at the end so if that carries on we won't be scoring goals either. Andros Townsend made an interesting comment that Leeds and Villa were scoring goals for fun as they played as if they weren't scared of anyone. Shame that we can't be the same
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Den1923  08 Oct 20 10.05am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
It will be Eddie Howe, Carl on Twitter reckons our new manager is taking a break from football or will it be Poch?
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| Den1923 08 Oct 20 10.08am |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Desperate stuff here. Benteke good at holding the ball up ? Since when ? For a bloke of his size it’s absolutely pathetic and his complete lack of contribution at times has been as big a problem as his goal scoring. Quite right brining Benteke on is like playing with 10 men against 11, he look clumsy, can't head the ball in a controlled manner, has no floor ball skills, does not like running best use of him with his new skill set is making the half time cuppa!
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| Den1923 08 Oct 20 10.12am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I can tell you don't have anything objective to add by all the petty snipes. We've finished 11th, 12th, and 14th. Hodgson's performance is slightly worse than the 4 previous season. The level of entertainment is dour. He's got the most expensive squad we've ever had assembled. Average at best and declining. is it?, then it says a lot about our quality?
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 08 Oct 20 10.29am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Perhaps but we haven't addressed the main problems which are scoring goals and the age of the squad, I know that we have bought a young crock to play in defence but until he gets fit we will have to continue to rely on Dad's Army. Bats joined us less than a week after scoring twice for Belgium but he has had to make do with five minutes at the end so if that carries on we won't be scoring goals either. Andros Townsend made an interesting comment that Leeds and Villa were scoring goals for fun as they played as if they weren't scared of anyone. Shame that we can't be the same They'll be scared soon don't worry, the sight of Zaha beating himself ten times and Townsend twisting and turning with Benteke in the centre circle they won't know what's hit them when Eze runs through the middle..
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 08 Oct 20 10.57am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
How much money have Leicester, Everton and Wolves spent in recent seasons I wonder? Last season was a really brilliant opportunity for our club to show something when we secured safety with so many points still to play for, first time we've done that and that's progress in my book and so far apart from the Chelsea 2nd half we've looked a good solid outfit and a good prospect for any enterprising new manager to be able to make changes due to players becoming too old, we are almost perfectly placed for a new manager with fresh ideas to come in and take over from the brilliant stabilising job Mr Hodgson has achieved with the whole club, he deserves a huge medal I think. Exciting times are ahead for this club, shame Covid 19 is ruining everything at the moment.
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jeeagles  08 Oct 20 11.31am |
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Originally posted by Den1923
is it?, then it says a lot about our quality? I think people are forgetting how poor the squad was under Pullis and Pardew. In his last transfer window Pardew added Tompkins, Benteke, and Townsend for a combined £55m. BFS added £45m worth of players. Then we added Reidewald and Sakho for £35m. I just found a old programme from Feb 2015. We had a squad that included Mariappa, Hangeland, McCarthy, Thomas, Friers, Mutch, Ameobi & Sonogo. Really, we are a lot stronger now. We finished 10th that season. Hodgson is nothing special. I should note, that I don't advocate sacking a manager over our last two performances. It's more the performance over last season, particualarly from Christmas onwards. I'm quite willing to see how he does over the next two games, but nothing less than 6 points should be acceptable. My main gripe is with people continually calling Roy a mirical worker - he's not. He's our 4th most successful manager since promotion and has several huge flaws. As soon as someone decent comes available we should move on.
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