If in doubt, plunge into the offensive word pool. Most of you on here can’t debate. If someone doesn’t like your way of thinking you turn to personal abuse.

The only thing personal is the fact we all want the same thing, which is goals goals goals and, good solid defending, Roy has when all fully fit a good solid bunch of defenders to pick from and he understands how to coach them into keeping us in this league which is what he's achieved very well so far improving year on year and this has been done without the very very necessity of a decent Murray/Benteke type player to make the most of any opportunities that come along high and low.

Eze looks very good on the ball and Chelsea dealt with him with countless fouls when the score was 0-0 and 1-0 and 2-0, this is going to happen to him and Ayew and Zaha every game until we can find a good out and out striker to occupy opposing players away from them enough to help our attacks, this is all just to fill in the gap until our very decent manager leaves and the new one appears who I also hope will play the football you so desire.

I did not mean to be personal to you or any of the other fans who want to see Mr Hodgson go, I see it as frustration on my part, often I don't even look at the poster's name when I respond at the beginning.

Eaglecoops, Tim Gypsy Hill '64 actually wants the same as you which is again entertaining football with lots of goals and good defending ..who doesn't? he is also a passionate Palace fan like you, me and everyone else on here, we all want the same flipping thing OK. It is called frustration, we are all just fighting over the frustration of each other.

Thank you Willo, you are a Sir.

I agree with what you say but I do consider us one dimensional in our play.

Roy in my opinion is the best defensive coach in the league however this comes at the expense of our forward play. How many times have we seen matches start brightly and then before long we are defending deeper and deeper until the only offensive option we have left is the counter attack, which is normally nipped in the bud by a niggly professional foul. Once we drop off into this defensive mindset we struggle to get out of it. Chelsea played well the other day but they knew exactly what we were going to do and were prepared to stifle it.

Roy has done well but until he has a noticeable plan b or plan c that he is willing to back with a swift change of personnel and set up, I believe we will continue to see the same pattern of play and more particularly against the teams that dominate possession.

We are caught between devil and the deep blue sea. Yes, Roy won't be around for too much longer but you wonder what sort debacle we will get ourselves into trying to source a new manager ?