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Originally posted by Spiderman
So for all those who believe the French are trying to stop this, read about the free bus service! I thought that was the Royal Navy and the RNLI.
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Interesting that the BBC story concentrates on missing migrant children. BBC News has discovered that 116 children disappeared between July 2021 and August 2022, after temporarily being put in hotels by the Home Office." (BBC website) This is really a pop at reporting, which is lax. There are missing people from hotels, but they are only classified as children based on say-so, and all arrive without documentation. Even The Sun was doing better than this, some time ago.
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Interesting that the BBC story concentrates on missing migrant children. BBC News has discovered that 116 children disappeared between July 2021 and August 2022, after temporarily being put in hotels by the Home Office." (BBC website) This is really a pop at reporting, which is lax. There are missing people from hotels, but they are only classified as children based on say-so, and all arrive without documentation. Even The Sun was doing better than this, some time ago.
Many that claim to be minors, are indeed not so. HO have procedures in place to obtain age assessment but these are very rarely used. If claimed minors arrive they become the responsibility of the Social Services, with regard to accommodation. I know of several placed with local foster families, who abscond on the first night. Worse case scenario was putting a claimed minor with a foster family with teenage daughters. Luckily no harm was done. IMO many of these will no be minors and would be very surprised if an 11yo would have been put into a hotel without a responsible adult accompanying. Some might be exploited, which is horrendous, however you can argue that they have been exploited since leaving their home country
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I’m sure some on here will be volunteering for this
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All our comedians work for government not those unfunny chat shows on Dave.
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If it"s guaranteed rent , it"s no different to taking in a british born tenant- whats not to like?
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Originally posted by croydon proud
If it"s guaranteed rent , it"s no different to taking in a british born tenant- whats not to like? The Taxpayer foots the bill!
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
The Taxpayer foots the bill! But they foot the bill on the british tenant on universal credit to Henry!
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Originally posted by croydon proud
But they foot the bill on the british tenant on universal credit to Henry! You are of course correct that the money is from the same source whether British or immigrants but these people are illegal immigrants. There are a few issues for me here: The camps in Kent were recently inspected and found to be full and cramped. Some people had been living in marquees for a fortnight and some have waited in hotels/ camps for more than a year before their case is reviewed. I feel we should not be making illegal immigrants too comfortable. They chose to come here via France which is perfectly safe haven, we did not invite them. The camps are full because most of the deserted military establishments in Kent and elsewhere have been demolished and turned into housing estates. I wouldn't like to speculate who profits most from the sale of the government owned land. Remarkably,these new housing estates seem to appear almost overnight too. It was stated that most of the immigrants arriving these days are Albanian men. I am unaware of wholesale persecution of individuals in Albania so I speculate that these people are here to exploit our welfare system and probably arrive in gangs. Gangs spell trouble. A short drive to a detention centre and a one way ticket on a charter back to Albania is the simplest solution. If we have too many illegal immigrants awaiting an asylum review we need to step up their processing and make space on the conveyor belt. I don't think we should be filling up camps, hotels and now privately owned rentals indiscriminately as it merely shows we are unable to deal effectively with the issue.
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
You are of course correct that the money is from the same source whether British or immigrants but these people are illegal immigrants. There are a few issues for me here: The camps in Kent were recently inspected and found to be full and cramped. Some people had been living in marquees for a fortnight and some have waited in hotels/ camps for more than a year before their case is reviewed. I feel we should not be making illegal immigrants too comfortable. They chose to come here via France which is perfectly safe haven, we did not invite them. The camps are full because most of the deserted military establishments in Kent and elsewhere have been demolished and turned into housing estates. I wouldn't like to speculate who profits most from the sale of the government owned land. Remarkably,these new housing estates seem to appear almost overnight too. It was stated that most of the immigrants arriving these days are Albanian men. I am unaware of wholesale persecution of individuals in Albania so I speculate that these people are here to exploit our welfare system and probably arrive in gangs. Gangs spell trouble. A short drive to a detention centre and a one way ticket on a charter back to Albania is the simplest solution. If we have too many illegal immigrants awaiting an asylum review we need to step up their processing and make space on the conveyor belt. I don't think we should be filling up camps, hotels and now privately owned rentals indiscriminately as it merely shows we are unable to deal effectively with the issue. Indeed- I saw that 85% of those processed last year were granted permission to stay-4% were not, perhaps not all gang members - more likely 4 in every 100, or 1 in 25, and 8,5 out of 10 good enough people to stay!Puts it all in to perspective doesn"t it.
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Indeed- I saw that 85% of those processed last year were granted permission to stay-4% were not, perhaps not all gang members - more likely 4 in every 100, or 1 in 25, and 8,5 out of 10 good enough people to stay!Puts it all in to perspective doesn"t it. Granted permission to stay does not necessarily mean granted asylum. A high percentage are granted leave to remain but not as asylum. Why? Edited by Spiderman (27 Oct 2022 9.43pm)
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
This feels familiar too PV: Edited by Nicholas91 (28 Oct 2022 2.13pm)
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Doctors, nurses, carers, supermarket staff, fruit pickers and HGV drivers, bar staff- the list is endless!
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All the customers who have been ripped off by a black cab fare.
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Doctors, nurses, carers, supermarket staff, fruit pickers and HGV drivers, bar staff- the list is endless! So all the Channel migrants fall into these categories? I don’t think so. Edited by Spiderman (28 Oct 2022 7.35pm)
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Originally posted by cryrst
All the customers who have been ripped off by a black cab fare. Only after Brexit
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surely all the Ukranian women & children were on the bus behind this one ? [Tweet Link]
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