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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 7.21pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle It also take a few moments to post up a bit of evidence to back up your claims against the points I made. They all exist on this thread. But you can't. The time taken in the last three posts could have equalled a post full of factually sourced information which I could then discuss with you. But you still can't. You know that any argument you have will be ripped to shreds with facts. You're just an empty vessel. I cannot be bothered to read back through the "points" you have made. It was you who responded to my statement about Trump, so it is for you to provide the evidence to support your dismissal of that statement rather than just using insult as a tactic. Good luck with that. It is beyond dispute that the recovery curve now being seen follows a trend started in the last years of the Obama administration. I trust that you aren't seeking to dispute that. As you seem determined to not believe me on what most economists believe about trickle down economics, although it continuing to be politically attractive to those on the right, perhaps you might read this link, which you could have quickly found if you really wanted to. It uses publicly available statistics as it's source:- [Link] My remarks about Trump are all based on my personal observations and through reading his tweets. I follow him and read both him and many of the responses, some from supporters, some not. Try it. You would learn a lot. No need to read or listen to any other kind of media. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 7.21pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

It also take a few moments to post up a bit of evidence to back up your claims against the points I made. They all exist on this thread. But you can't.

The time taken in the last three posts could have equalled a post full of factually sourced information which I could then discuss with you. But you still can't.

You know that any argument you have will be ripped to shreds with facts. You're just an empty vessel.

I cannot be bothered to read back through the "points" you have made. It was you who responded to my statement about Trump, so it is for you to provide the evidence to support your dismissal of that statement rather than just using insult as a tactic. Good luck with that.

It is beyond dispute that the recovery curve now being seen follows a trend started in the last years of the Obama administration. I trust that you aren't seeking to dispute that.

As you seem determined to not believe me on what most economists believe about trickle down economics, although it continuing to be politically attractive to those on the right, perhaps you might read this link, which you could have quickly found if you really wanted to. It uses publicly available statistics as it's source:-

[Link]

My remarks about Trump are all based on my personal observations and through reading his tweets. I follow him and read both him and many of the responses, some from supporters, some not. Try it. You would learn a lot. No need to read or listen to any other kind of media.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

cryrst The garden of England 10 Feb 19 9.00pm
Originally posted by ChuFukka Neo Nazis, famous for their hatred of white people. Anti-white racists (lol) have caused approximately no deaths in the United States LTM. That isn’t true of far-right extremists. Let’s deal with the actual threat first, shall we, rather than some people on Twitter? I dont beleive neeson killed a black guy either but he is labelled as head kkk leader in some eyes. Glass houses springs to mind.!

cryrst

The garden of England 10 Feb 19 9.00pm

Originally posted by ChuFukka

Neo Nazis, famous for their hatred of white people.

Anti-white racists (lol) have caused approximately no deaths in the United States LTM. That isn’t true of far-right extremists. Let’s deal with the actual threat first, shall we, rather than some people on Twitter?

I dont beleive neeson killed a black guy either but he is labelled as head kkk leader in some eyes.
Glass houses springs to mind.!

Stirlingsays 10 Feb 19 9.26pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle As you seem determined to not believe me on what most economists believe about trickle down economics, although it continuing to be politically attractive to those on the right, perhaps you might read this link, which you could have quickly found if you really wanted to. It uses publicly available statistics as it's source:- I remember the predictions about what effect Trump would have on the economy by the Democrats......All of them were wrong....go figure. Now he's got it booming.....And now what do we hear....Well, it was going to happen anyway with Obama. Na...it wasn't, it would have continued at the lower rates. As for the moans about tickle down.....Well I have some time for that....but I'm not sure what else any capitalist government can do.....A capitalist government's job is to create the right business environment for investment and the best education system to take advantage of better jobs....(though the education system takes much longer than anyone president). A government that interferes with the business environment and places too many restrictions onto it....kills investment. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Feb 2019 9.27pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

10 Feb 19 9.26pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I remember the predictions about what effect Trump would have on the economy by the Democrats......All of them were wrong....go figure.

Now he's got it booming.....And now what do we hear....Well, it was going to happen anyway with Obama.

Na...it wasn't, it would have continued at the lower rates.

As for the moans about tickle down.....Well I have some time for that....but I'm not sure what else any capitalist government can do.....A capitalist government's job is to create the right business environment for investment and the best education system to take advantage of better jobs....(though the education system takes much longer than anyone president).

A government that interferes with the business environment and places too many restrictions onto it....kills investment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Feb 2019 9.27pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 9.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I remember the predictions about what effect Trump would have on the economy by the Democrats......All of them were wrong....go figure. Now he's got it booming.....And now what do we hear....Well, it was going to happen anyway with Obama. Na...it wasn't, it would have continued at the lower rates. As for the moans about tickle down.....Well I have some time for that....but I'm not sure what else any capitalist government can do.....A capitalist government's job is to create the right business environment for investment and the best education system to take advantage of better jobs....(though the education system takes much longer than anyone president). A government that interferes with the business environment and places too many restrictions onto it....kills investment. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Feb 2019 9.27pm) No he hasn't! Economies take years to respond and therefore a judgement cannot be made until a lot of time has passed. The Dems predictions were never going to be seen immediately but there are many straws in the wind which support them now. I welcome your agreement about trickle down economics and I agree about the need to stimulate capitalism. The question is about how you do that and to my mind starting trade wars and breaking international agreements doesn't help. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 19 9.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I remember the predictions about what effect Trump would have on the economy by the Democrats......All of them were wrong....go figure.

Now he's got it booming.....And now what do we hear....Well, it was going to happen anyway with Obama.

Na...it wasn't, it would have continued at the lower rates.

A government that interferes with the business environment and places too many restrictions onto it....kills investment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Feb 2019 9.27pm)

No he hasn't! Economies take years to respond and therefore a judgement cannot be made until a lot of time has passed. The Dems predictions were never going to be seen immediately but there are many straws in the wind which support them now.

I welcome your agreement about trickle down economics and I agree about the need to stimulate capitalism. The question is about how you do that and to my mind starting trade wars and breaking international agreements doesn't help.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

.TUX. 10 Feb 19 10.09pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle No he hasn't! Economies take years to respond and therefore a judgement cannot be made until a lot of time has passed. The Dems predictions were never going to be seen immediately but there are many straws in the wind which support them now. I welcome your agreement about trickle down economics and I agree about the need to stimulate capitalism. The question is about how you do that and to my mind starting trade wars and breaking international agreements doesn't help. You cannot ''stimulate'' any kind of 'true' capitalism (not the 'crony' that prevails), ie one that ultimately rewards people, all the while you inflict the use of a constantly inflating currency upon them (from thin-air). They can't and never will be able to keep up with the inflation. The past 40 or so years and the affect it has on the average Joes labour being proof. PS 'Trickle down' is a myth. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

10 Feb 19 10.09pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I welcome your agreement about trickle down economics and I agree about the need to stimulate capitalism. The question is about how you do that and to my mind starting trade wars and breaking international agreements doesn't help.

You cannot ''stimulate'' any kind of 'true' capitalism (not the 'crony' that prevails), ie one that ultimately rewards people, all the while you inflict the use of a constantly inflating currency upon them (from thin-air). They can't and never will be able to keep up with the inflation.
The past 40 or so years and the affect it has on the average Joes labour being proof.

PS 'Trickle down' is a myth.

Buy Litecoin.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Feb 19 3.12pm
I decided to remove myself from the "Brexit" thread a while back because it became obvious it was pointless trying to reason with those with fixed minds and set positions. I will now withdraw from this thread, and all of those in this section, because the same posters appear in them all, with equally entrenched attitudes. People who are "Tommy Robinson" and Trump apologists all also seem to be hardline Brexiteers. As I have encountered such people many times, and in many places, before, I know when I am wasting my time. The most obvious similar example is a chap who used to use our local pub. He was an ardent UKIP enthusiast and would bring their aims into every conversation, given the chance. He became intolerable after the referendum as he consistently crowed that they had "won" and parroted the kind of claims now known to be baseless. Let him get onto Trump, or Robinson and the EDL, and he was in his element, wallowing in anti Muslim sentiment and blaming everything he did not approve of on the "elite", the "left", the "deep state", the "new world order" or George Soros. It was quite obvious where his sources of "information" came from. He loves InfoWars and thinks Alex Jones is a great guy! It only took a little scratching of the surface to reveal what really drove his attitudes. He claimed to be a "patriot" who loved his country. The truth is that he loved what his country used to be, before there were any immigrants he didn't like. He would never accept the epithet but he is a closet racist. Eventually he stopped using the pub, because people got tired of him and gave him the cold shoulder, especially when Brexit became less certain and he started to threaten violence if "the will of the people" wasn't done. No doubt he has found somewhere else where he is among more sympathetic listeners. As it feels to me that this section is more like that other pub, and not my local, I will withdraw and let you all reinforce each other's prejudices without interference from me. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 11 Feb 19 3.12pm

I decided to remove myself from the "Brexit" thread a while back because it became obvious it was pointless trying to reason with those with fixed minds and set positions.

I will now withdraw from this thread, and all of those in this section, because the same posters appear in them all, with equally entrenched attitudes.

People who are "Tommy Robinson" and Trump apologists all also seem to be hardline Brexiteers. As I have encountered such people many times, and in many places, before, I know when I am wasting my time.

The most obvious similar example is a chap who used to use our local pub. He was an ardent UKIP enthusiast and would bring their aims into every conversation, given the chance. He became intolerable after the referendum as he consistently crowed that they had "won" and parroted the kind of claims now known to be baseless.

Let him get onto Trump, or Robinson and the EDL, and he was in his element, wallowing in anti Muslim sentiment and blaming everything he did not approve of on the "elite", the "left", the "deep state", the "new world order" or George Soros. It was quite obvious where his sources of "information" came from. He loves InfoWars and thinks Alex Jones is a great guy!

It only took a little scratching of the surface to reveal what really drove his attitudes. He claimed to be a "patriot" who loved his country. The truth is that he loved what his country used to be, before there were any immigrants he didn't like. He would never accept the epithet but he is a closet racist.

Eventually he stopped using the pub, because people got tired of him and gave him the cold shoulder, especially when Brexit became less certain and he started to threaten violence if "the will of the people" wasn't done. No doubt he has found somewhere else where he is among more sympathetic listeners.

As it feels to me that this section is more like that other pub, and not my local, I will withdraw and let you all reinforce each other's prejudices without interference from me.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

.TUX. 11 Feb 19 4.13pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I decided to remove myself from the "Brexit" thread a while back because it became obvious it was pointless trying to reason with those with fixed minds and set positions. I will now withdraw from this thread, and all of those in this section, because the same posters appear in them all, with equally entrenched attitudes. People who are "Tommy Robinson" and Trump apologists all also seem to be hardline Brexiteers. As I have encountered such people many times, and in many places, before, I know when I am wasting my time. The most obvious similar example is a chap who used to use our local pub. He was an ardent UKIP enthusiast and would bring their aims into every conversation, given the chance. He became intolerable after the referendum as he consistently crowed that they had "won" and parroted the kind of claims now known to be baseless. Let him get onto Trump, or Robinson and the EDL, and he was in his element, wallowing in anti Muslim sentiment and blaming everything he did not approve of on the "elite", the "left", the "deep state", the "new world order" or George Soros. It was quite obvious where his sources of "information" came from. He loves InfoWars and thinks Alex Jones is a great guy! It only took a little scratching of the surface to reveal what really drove his attitudes. He claimed to be a "patriot" who loved his country. The truth is that he loved what his country used to be, before there were any immigrants he didn't like. He would never accept the epithet but he is a closet racist. Eventually he stopped using the pub, because people got tired of him and gave him the cold shoulder, especially when Brexit became less certain and he started to threaten violence if "the will of the people" wasn't done. No doubt he has found somewhere else where he is among more sympathetic listeners. As it feels to me that this section is more like that other pub, and not my local, I will withdraw and let you all reinforce each other's prejudices without interference from me. I like Trump as i believe he's trying to end The Fed. This is a good thing imo. I don't like the EU due to the constant reliance on debt. This is a bad thing imo. You appear to have more in common with that bloke down the pub ('Spoons?) than you realise. Ta ta. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

11 Feb 19 4.13pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I decided to remove myself from the "Brexit" thread a while back because it became obvious it was pointless trying to reason with those with fixed minds and set positions.

I will now withdraw from this thread, and all of those in this section, because the same posters appear in them all, with equally entrenched attitudes.

People who are "Tommy Robinson" and Trump apologists all also seem to be hardline Brexiteers. As I have encountered such people many times, and in many places, before, I know when I am wasting my time.

As it feels to me that this section is more like that other pub, and not my local, I will withdraw and let you all reinforce each other's prejudices without interference from me.

I like Trump as i believe he's trying to end The Fed. This is a good thing imo.
I don't like the EU due to the constant reliance on debt. This is a bad thing imo.

You appear to have more in common with that bloke down the pub ('Spoons?) than you realise.

Ta ta.

Buy Litecoin.

steeleye20 Croydon 11 Feb 19 4.18pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I decided to remove myself from the "Brexit" thread a while back because it became obvious it was pointless trying to reason with those with fixed minds and set positions. I will now withdraw from this thread, and all of those in this section, because the same posters appear in them all, with equally entrenched attitudes. People who are "Tommy Robinson" and Trump apologists all also seem to be hardline Brexiteers. As I have encountered such people many times, and in many places, before, I know when I am wasting my time. The most obvious similar example is a chap who used to use our local pub. He was an ardent UKIP enthusiast and would bring their aims into every conversation, given the chance. He became intolerable after the referendum as he consistently crowed that they had "won" and parroted the kind of claims now known to be baseless. Let him get onto Trump, or Robinson and the EDL, and he was in his element, wallowing in anti Muslim sentiment and blaming everything he did not approve of on the "elite", the "left", the "deep state", the "new world order" or George Soros. It was quite obvious where his sources of "information" came from. He loves InfoWars and thinks Alex Jones is a great guy! It only took a little scratching of the surface to reveal what really drove his attitudes. He claimed to be a "patriot" who loved his country. The truth is that he loved what his country used to be, before there were any immigrants he didn't like. He would never accept the epithet but he is a closet racist. Eventually he stopped using the pub, because people got tired of him and gave him the cold shoulder, especially when Brexit became less certain and he started to threaten violence if "the will of the people" wasn't done. No doubt he has found somewhere else where he is among more sympathetic listeners. As it feels to me that this section is more like that other pub, and not my local, I will withdraw and let you all reinforce each other's prejudices without interference from me. You are running out of threads to leave... There is always 'genital mutilation' or 'brexit' and let's be honest, they are the same thing....

steeleye20

Croydon 11 Feb 19 4.18pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I decided to remove myself from the "Brexit" thread a while back because it became obvious it was pointless trying to reason with those with fixed minds and set positions.

I will now withdraw from this thread, and all of those in this section, because the same posters appear in them all, with equally entrenched attitudes.

As it feels to me that this section is more like that other pub, and not my local, I will withdraw and let you all reinforce each other's prejudices without interference from me.

You are running out of threads to leave...

There is always 'genital mutilation' or 'brexit' and let's be honest, they are the same thing....

Stirlingsays 11 Feb 19 4.20pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 You are running out of threads to leave... There is always 'genital mutilation' or 'brexit' and let's be honest, they are the same thing.... That one was genuinely funny Steely....I'll give you that. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

11 Feb 19 4.20pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

You are running out of threads to leave...

There is always 'genital mutilation' or 'brexit' and let's be honest, they are the same thing....

That one was genuinely funny Steely....I'll give you that.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

.TUX. 11 Feb 19 4.28pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 You are running out of threads to leave... There is always 'genital mutilation' or 'brexit' and let's be honest, they are the same thing.... Yep, they both scare fannies Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

11 Feb 19 4.28pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

You are running out of threads to leave...

There is always 'genital mutilation' or 'brexit' and let's be honest, they are the same thing....

Yep, they both scare fannies

Buy Litecoin.

Stirlingsays 12 Feb 19 12.40am
One poll now has Trump now at an approval rating of 52 percent......This is despite most of the coverage by the media being negative. Contrast what with May at 28 and Macron at 27. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Feb 2019 1.13am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

12 Feb 19 12.40am

One poll now has Trump now at an approval rating of 52 percent......This is despite most of the coverage by the media being negative.

Contrast what with May at 28 and Macron at 27.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Feb 2019 1.13am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

W12 13 Feb 19 9.14pm
Originally posted by .TUX. I like Trump as i believe he's trying to end The Fed. This is a good thing imo. I don't like the EU due to the constant reliance on debt. This is a bad thing imo. You appear to have more in common with that bloke down the pub ('Spoons?) than you realise. Ta ta. The battle to save western civilisation is (1) the battle to reform and largely remove the welfare state in it’s current form and therefore our reliance on debt and (2) The battle of demographics so that we can continue to democratically appose “1” and remain free to do so. We have to get a grip on both of these things or we are screwed.

W12 13 Feb 19 9.14pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

I like Trump as i believe he's trying to end The Fed. This is a good thing imo.
I don't like the EU due to the constant reliance on debt. This is a bad thing imo.

You appear to have more in common with that bloke down the pub ('Spoons?) than you realise.

Ta ta.

The battle to save western civilisation is (1) the battle to reform and largely remove the welfare state in it’s current form and therefore our reliance on debt and (2) The battle of demographics so that we can continue to democratically appose “1” and remain free to do so.

We have to get a grip on both of these things or we are screwed.

Stirlingsays 13 Feb 19 11.04pm
Originally posted by W12 The battle to save western civilisation is (1) the battle to reform and largely remove the welfare state in it’s current form and therefore our reliance on debt and (2) The battle of demographics so that we can continue to democratically appose “1” and remain free to do so. We have to get a grip on both of these things or we are screwed. Neither of them are likely to happen. However, there's going to be a breakdown at some point....as will happen much sooner in the US. That will be the defining situation.....Because most of us don't have guns it's far more important who the army generals are at that time....because they probably will intervene. While I can see these problems happening in around ten years time or even sooner in the US......Here it will probably be around the 2040 to 50 time frame.....that's large scale, there will be a lot going on before that....I don't know, maybe it'll happen much sooner...hard to say....or predict the outcome. I'm pretty bleak about it really, however stuff turns out, it isn't going to be fun. But I probably won't be here to see it.....Just a case of orientating my family so they aren't caught out by it. And only if some arsehole doesn't nuke the planet and us beforehand......because there are going to be a hell of a lot more countries going nuclear capable before we get to 2050. And only frigging the Swiss and Russia have done even the slightest about that to protect their people. Long term decisions....long term. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Feb 2019 11.11pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

13 Feb 19 11.04pm

Originally posted by W12

We have to get a grip on both of these things or we are screwed.

Neither of them are likely to happen.

However, there's going to be a breakdown at some point....as will happen much sooner in the US.

That will be the defining situation.....Because most of us don't have guns it's far more important who the army generals are at that time....because they probably will intervene.

While I can see these problems happening in around ten years time or even sooner in the US......Here it will probably be around the 2040 to 50 time frame.....that's large scale, there will be a lot going on before that....I don't know, maybe it'll happen much sooner...hard to say....or predict the outcome.

I'm pretty bleak about it really, however stuff turns out, it isn't going to be fun. But I probably won't be here to see it.....Just a case of orientating my family so they aren't caught out by it.

And only if some arsehole doesn't nuke the planet and us beforehand......because there are going to be a hell of a lot more countries going nuclear capable before we get to 2050.

And only frigging the Swiss and Russia have done even the slightest about that to protect their people.

Long term decisions....long term.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Feb 2019 11.11pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

steeleye20 Croydon 19 Feb 19 6.43pm
Could there ever be a socialist President of the United States? 'For the many not the few'. Bernie Sanders has nothing in his favour except people, if he can get 1 million of them to mount his grass-roots campaign nation-wide. He was a surprise hit last time and believes the momentum is with him. There is a first time for everything.

steeleye20

Croydon 19 Feb 19 6.43pm

Could there ever be a socialist President of the United States?

'For the many not the few'.

Bernie Sanders has nothing in his favour except people, if he can get 1 million of them to mount his grass-roots campaign nation-wide.

He was a surprise hit last time and believes the momentum is with him.

There is a first time for everything.

Stirlingsays 19 Feb 19 6.48pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Could there ever be a socialist President of the United States? 'For the many not the few'. Bernie Sanders has nothing in his favour except people, if he can get 1 million of them to mount his grass-roots campaign nation-wide. He was a surprise hit last time and believes the momentum is with him. There is a first time for everything. Don't you read this stuff Steely? Demographics mean that the Democrats are certain to take over permanently.....if not in 2020 but at any election after that. It isn't the politics that will win....it's the identity politics that the left played into for decades. And then they will have to deal with the viper they nursed as it grows bigger and eventually eats them. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Feb 19 6.48pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Could there ever be a socialist President of the United States?

'For the many not the few'.

Bernie Sanders has nothing in his favour except people, if he can get 1 million of them to mount his grass-roots campaign nation-wide.

He was a surprise hit last time and believes the momentum is with him.

There is a first time for everything.

Don't you read this stuff Steely?

Demographics mean that the Democrats are certain to take over permanently.....if not in 2020 but at any election after that.

It isn't the politics that will win....it's the identity politics that the left played into for decades.

And then they will have to deal with the viper they nursed as it grows bigger and eventually eats them.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

steeleye20 Croydon 19 Feb 19 6.51pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Don't you read this stuff Steely? Demographics mean that the Democrats are certain to take over permanently.....if not in 2020 but at any election after that. It isn't the politics that will win....it's the identity politics that the left played into for decades. And then they will have to deal with the viper they nursed as it grows bigger and eventually eats them. Well he is running and I have seen his very inspirational video, I think Americans could respond.

steeleye20

Croydon 19 Feb 19 6.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Don't you read this stuff Steely?

Demographics mean that the Democrats are certain to take over permanently.....if not in 2020 but at any election after that.

It isn't the politics that will win....it's the identity politics that the left played into for decades.

And then they will have to deal with the viper they nursed as it grows bigger and eventually eats them.

Well he is running and I have seen his very inspirational video, I think Americans could respond.

Stirlingsays 19 Feb 19 6.55pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Well he is running and I have seen his very inspirational video, I think Americans could respond. I quite like some aspects of Sanders.....but I would be surprised if he won but hey you have to be in it to win it......He was cheated out of the nomination last time around. As always the American elections will be fascinating. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Feb 19 6.55pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Well he is running and I have seen his very inspirational video, I think Americans could respond.

I quite like some aspects of Sanders.....but I would be surprised if he won but hey you have to be in it to win it......He was cheated out of the nomination last time around.

As always the American elections will be fascinating.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

cryrst The garden of England 19 Feb 19 7.49pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Well he is running and I have seen his very inspirational video, I think Americans could respond. Only the stupid ones. Racism will be for the democrats to reinstate.

cryrst

The garden of England 19 Feb 19 7.49pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Well he is running and I have seen his very inspirational video, I think Americans could respond.

Only the stupid ones.
Racism will be for the democrats to reinstate.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 19 Feb 19 8.27pm
'Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality' [Link] Won't see a positive Trump story like that in the UK mainstream media.

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 19 Feb 19 8.27pm

'Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality' [Link]

Won't see a positive Trump story like that in the UK mainstream media.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 19 Feb 19 8.30pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I quite like some aspects of Sanders.....but I would be surprised if he won but hey you have to be in it to win it......He was cheated out of the nomination last time around. As always the American elections will be fascinating. Sanders is massive but will get stitched up by the Democrat establishment again....

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 19 Feb 19 8.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I quite like some aspects of Sanders.....but I would be surprised if he won but hey you have to be in it to win it......He was cheated out of the nomination last time around.

As always the American elections will be fascinating.

Sanders is massive but will get stitched up by the Democrat establishment again....

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