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Invalid user 2019 Flag 07 Jun 19 10.43pm

Originally posted by .TUX.



Dead lazy, but someone once said that if voting mattered then we'd never have been given the right.

Sadly history shows this to be true.
We're 'given' a vote that ultimately doesn't matter. It's laughable tbh that people take this s*** seriously.

Oh well

A troubling but likely accurate take. I'd always considered that if you have significant resources at your disposal it's very easy to hold massive influence in a first past the post system. Just flash the cash in both directions and you've got it sewn up, US lobbying style. Then ensure the population are endlessly at loggerheads and fragmenting along social issues as a distraction. Equals Profit! $$$$$

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 19 11.18am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


That's a curious thought.

If the Tories broke up all their voters would go to Farage......So I'd rather suspect you'd very much hope they didn't break up.

If the Tories broke up only a proportion of their voters would go to Farage!

There are many, like me, who detest the drift to the right and want nothing to do with Farage or his kind.

Where their home will be in future is unclear right now. It could be in the LibDems, if they get themselves sorted out. It might have been in Change, but they seem to be uncertain of where they are going themselves. My hope is that all these elements will coalesce around a central imperative, whilst retaining some degree of individual identity and co-operate in any future GE under an "Alliance" banner. They could then become an important partner in a coalition, which I see as the most likely outcome of the next GE.

What is for sure is that a substantial number of Tories won't go to Farage if they break up. Most perhaps but never all.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 19 11.24am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If the Tories broke up only a proportion of their voters would go to Farage!

There are many, like me, who detest the drift to the right and want nothing to do with Farage or his kind.

Where their home will be in future is unclear right now. It could be in the LibDems, if they get themselves sorted out. It might have been in Change, but they seem to be uncertain of where they are going themselves. My hope is that all these elements will coalesce around a central imperative, whilst retaining some degree of individual identity and co-operate in any future GE under an "Alliance" banner. They could then become an important partner in a coalition, which I see as the most likely outcome of the next GE.

What is for sure is that a substantial number of Tories won't go to Farage if they break up. Most perhaps but never all.


Mmmm....fair enough, most not all.

I made the mistake of saying 'all' which is rarely correct when we are referring to humans.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Jun 19 2.39pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Labour only won in Peterborough because of demographic shift.

I was in Peterborough city centre last month and it was like being in a foreign city.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2019 10.17am)

It's always been that way to me.

I would prefer the familiarity of Polish and Nigerian accents myself.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Jun 19 6.44pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

It's always been that way to me.

I would prefer the familiarity of Polish and Nigerian accents myself.


Surely you are not being Racist against the indeginous population of Cambridgeshire?

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Jun 19 6.46pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If the Tories broke up only a proportion of their voters would go to Farage!

There are many, like me, who detest the drift to the right and want nothing to do with Farage or his kind.

Where their home will be in future is unclear right now. It could be in the LibDems, if they get themselves sorted out. It might have been in Change, but they seem to be uncertain of where they are going themselves. My hope is that all these elements will coalesce around a central imperative, whilst retaining some degree of individual identity and co-operate in any future GE under an "Alliance" banner. They could then become an important partner in a coalition, which I see as the most likely outcome of the next GE.

What is for sure is that a substantial number of Tories won't go to Farage if they break up. Most perhaps but never all.

Link? or is it just your opinion?

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 19 6.54pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Mmmm....fair enough, most not all.

I made the mistake of saying 'all' which is rarely correct when we are referring to humans.

Thanks for the honesty.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 19 6.56pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Link? or is it just your opinion?

Substantial is my opinion. Not all is a fact.

What constitutes substantial in this context is another opinion.

 


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Park Road Flag 08 Jun 19 6.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Substantial is my opinion. Not all is a fact.

What constitutes substantial in this context is another opinion.

That's very honest of you...

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Jun 19 7.02pm

Originally posted by Park Road

That's very honest of you...


Agreed

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Jun 19 11.11pm

Originally posted by Spiderman


Surely you are not being Racist against the indeginous population of Cambridgeshire?

In truth I have not had the opportunity to study the native cambridgean tribes in their natural habitat. The rumours may in fact not be entirely true.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jun 19 8.06am

Originally posted by Mapletree

It's always been that way to me.

I would prefer the familiarity of Polish and Nigerian accents myself.

Thanks for your agreement in changing our country for ever against the view of the majority and sanity. Not.

We would think it was like coy your opinion would never get into power, only did and does, with people like Tony Bliar doing it without telling or asking the country what it thinks. Typical really, because it’s crazy stupidity.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Jun 2019 8.09am)

 


COYP

Invalid user 2019 Flag 09 Jun 19 1.15pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Thanks for your agreement in changing our country for ever against the view of the majority and sanity. Not.


Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Jun 2019 8.09am)

He's making a joke at the idea of being unduly unsettled by the sound of foreign accents and languages, rather than saying that he desperately wants to hear them.

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 09 Jun 19 1.26pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

In truth I have not had the opportunity to study the native cambridgean tribes in their natural habitat. The rumours may in fact not be entirely true.

I suspect the Iceni are the ones most have heard of.

 

dannyboy1978 Flag 09 Jun 19 1.43pm

I was in the west end last night, English people are definatly the minority. Nearly every bar person is Easter European, lots of tourists and there is alot of foreign investment from I've been told.
Just my personal observation.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 09 Jun 19 1.46pm

WASPs are still the majority in the country as a whole.

That will change of course over the coming decades because of a combination of low birth rates and high immigration....But also because unlike pretty much every country outside Europe the WASP demographic didn't value their own identities enough. The left infected the media and educational institutions and over decades have brainwashed WASPs into thinking their identity is something to be guilty about.....This mentality was pretty insignificant in the UK pre 1960.

So WASPs and their variants will eventually become a minority. That means they will lose power and influence.

When that happens, what is happening in South Africa will gradually start to happen here. It will accelerate as the economy of the country starts to decline.

I don't know if the murders will start to be directed at them but what you can definitely rely upon is that those WASPs that hold wealthy property and businesses will start to come under legal attack and they will be forced to give them away.

There will inevitably be some level of conflict. But the English are far too fragmented for it to amount to anything.

The white liberals of the boomer era onwards will have their memories increasingly detested by the whites in Europe from around 2050 onwards.

The meek don't actually get to inherit the earth.

The genetic record is ample evidence for that.

The only hope is that as the boomers and generation x die off that the incoming generation wake up in time to reject the programming and stop their own irrelevancy and disfranchisement.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2019 2.51pm)

 


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Invalid user 2019 Flag 09 Jun 19 2.06pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

In truth I have not had the opportunity to study the native cambridgean tribes in their natural habitat. The rumours may in fact not be entirely true.

I expect there are some black birds here and there and occasionally some great tits.

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 09 Jun 19 2.13pm

the odd red breasted type too, but it depends what the weathers been like

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jun 19 8.43pm

Originally posted by dollardays

He's making a joke at the idea of being unduly unsettled by the sound of foreign accents and languages, rather than saying that he desperately wants to hear them.

I think if you were used to his opinions you’d forgive me for thinking he was being serious. He may have been.

 


COYP

dannyboy1978 Flag 10 Jun 19 6.44am

Well that was easy, next please.
BBC News - UK signs post-Brexit free trade deal with South Korea
[Link]

 

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