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 dannyboy1978  20 Jun 19 11.09am |
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So being in the EU has cost us nearly half a trillion pounds [Link] whilst at the same time we have racked up over 2 trillion in Debt. [Link] I'm struggling to see the benefits! Edited by dannyboy1978 (20 Jun 2019 11.10am)
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| dannyboy1978 20 Jun 19 9.54pm |
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What the hell has the EU got to do with this?
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cpfc_chap  koh samui 20 Jun 19 11.45pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
What the hell has the EU got to do with this? Bloody tossers!
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| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Jun 19 7.00am |
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Originally posted by cpfc_chap
Bloody tossers! LOL It's a terrible idea anyway, the solution not the problem, it will just lead to identity theft and blackmail. Edited by Badger11 (21 Jun 2019 7.00am)
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| Midlands Eagle 24 Jun 19 3.37pm |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
I wonder what the red line is for Brexiters to not vote for Farage's party? They have few, if any, other policies According to a Brexit Party spokesman on Daily Politics last week they are currently working on their manifesto
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johnno42000  24 Jun 19 3.52pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
According to a Brexit Party spokesman on Daily Politics last week they are currently working on their manifesto It'll be interesting to see which policies they arrive at which (apart from Brexit) don't antagonise their voters who usually vote for Labour or Conservative policies. Edited by johnno42000 (24 Jun 2019 3.52pm)
'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more' |
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| Maine Eagle USA 24 Jun 19 8.32pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
According to a Brexit Party spokesman on Daily Politics last week they are currently working on their manifesto Cant wait.
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| cpfc_chap koh samui 25 Jun 19 12.35am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Cant wait. I'm sure Nigel will be taking advise from Trump! that'll get you interested for sure
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| dannyboy1978 25 Jun 19 6.06pm |
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But we wouldn't want That chlorinated chicken would we
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 25 Jun 19 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
But we wouldn't want That chlorinated chicken would we Not particularly. That example occurred with much tighter regulations than the US. Chlorine is used to compensate for worse conditions to be the norm, rather than the exception. So for ethical and health reasons, I'll certainly be avoiding chlorinated chicken. I still find it amazing people eat battery reared animals. Price is not a reason – save up and eat less meat, and when you do make it free range or organic.
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cryrst  The garden of England 25 Jun 19 8.56pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Not particularly. That example occurred with much tighter regulations than the US. Chlorine is used to compensate for worse conditions to be the norm, rather than the exception. So for ethical and health reasons, I'll certainly be avoiding chlorinated chicken. I still find it amazing people eat battery reared animals. Price is not a reason – save up and eat less meat, and when you do make it free range or organic. Meat is meat
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| dannyboy1978 25 Jun 19 8.57pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Not particularly. That example occurred with much tighter regulations than the US. Chlorine is used to compensate for worse conditions to be the norm, rather than the exception. So for ethical and health reasons, I'll certainly be avoiding chlorinated chicken. I still find it amazing people eat battery reared animals. Price is not a reason – save up and eat less meat, and when you do make it free range or organic. Ever had a chicken kebab?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 25 Jun 19 9.33pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Not particularly. That example occurred with much tighter regulations than the US. Chlorine is used to compensate for worse conditions to be the norm, rather than the exception. So for ethical and health reasons, I'll certainly be avoiding chlorinated chicken. I still find it amazing people eat battery reared animals. Price is not a reason – save up and eat less meat, and when you do make it free range or organic. Not strictly true the EU report acknowledged that the US had good food standards but that chlorine "might" be used to compensate for lax hygiene standards. In other words the EU is using this as an excuse to protect it's own farmers but just didn't want to say that. My own feeling is that people should be allowed choice as long as there is proper labelling which currently there isn't. I would like to know how an animal was slaughtered or if a ready meal contains GM or the chicken was chlorinated.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 25 Jun 19 9.50pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Ever had a chicken kebab? Ever? Of course. When I was younger and far more ignorant. Nowadays? No chance. Unless I’m completely battered. Then anything is on the table. Especially not your average kebab house or chicken shop. Jesus. That’s not even meat. It’s water with added rubber, and a sprinkling of entrails (in fairness there’s nothing wrong with offal). KFC is not actually too bad if you look at their welfare standards, but still not free range - which is the best they can do as its not reallly a practical solution for a corporate behemoth. People moan about £10+ burgers and expensive ‘posh’ fried chicken but in most cases there is a reason for it - the meat is more ethically sourced and far better quality. You might also be wise to check the FSR of the establishments you clearly frequent on a regular basis - as well as a dose of elephant leg you’re probably getting some rodent DNA thrown in for good measure. Enjoy Edited by SW19 CPFC (25 Jun 2019 9.57pm)
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 25 Jun 19 9.54pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Not strictly true the EU report acknowledged that the US had good food standards but that chlorine "might" be used to compensate for lax hygiene standards. In other words the EU is using this as an excuse to protect it's own farmers but just didn't want to say that. My own feeling is that people should be allowed choice as long as there is proper labelling which currently there isn't. I would like to know how an animal was slaughtered or if a ready meal contains GM or the chicken was chlorinated. There are conflicting studies on this so I’ll have to disagree there. It’s obviously in their interests but there has to be a reason why the US do it and we don’t other than ‘it’s a different way to achieve the same result’. US is far more lax in general than UK standards. Agree on choice, clear labelling and traceability. Essential
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 25 Jun 19 9.56pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Meat is meat Was that an aborted attempt at poetry? Also ‘superior’ mammal may be technically true but in reality it’s questionable
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| Stirlingsays 25 Jun 19 10.04pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Ever? Of course. When I was younger and far more ignorant. Nowadays? No chance. Unless I’m completely battered. Then anything is on the table. Especially your average kebab house or chicken shop. Jesus. That’s not even meat. It’s water with added rubber, and a sprinkling of entrails (in fairness there’s nothing wrong with offal). KFC is not actually too bad if you look at their welfare standards, but still not free range - which is the best they can do as its not reallly a practical solution for a corporate behemoth. People moan about £10+ burgers and expensive ‘posh’ fried chicken but in most cases there is a reason for it - the meat is more ethically sourced and far better quality. You might also be wise to check the FSR of the establishments you clearly frequent on a regular basis - as well as a dose of elephant leg you’re probably getting some rodent DNA thrown in for good measure. Enjoy Boy oh boy SW19 how long ago was it when your family was working class? I think perhaps your perspective is fine for yourself and those like you and....well in some aspects I'd agree but..... Ten pound burgers? Listen, you have the same basic body as a caveman living thousands of years ago and a bit of your exaggerated 'elephant leg' isn't going to do sod all to your health. The reason life expectancy is lower in the US isn't down to sodding chicken is it.....so all this comes across as a bit la-di-da.....You make it sound as if US food standards are third world or that we going to sign away any standards. You pay for your top tier food (whose availability is relatively recent) and cheap food will be available for those who can afford it......I don't see health standards being lowered to threatening levels. We ate well in this country and had our own standards long before the EU gave us a different set. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jun 2019 11.46pm)
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| Stirlingsays 25 Jun 19 10.13pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Was that an aborted attempt at poetry? Also ‘superior’ mammal may be technically true but in reality it’s questionable
Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jun 2019 10.13pm)
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 25 Jun 19 11.06pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jun 2019 10.13pm) If humans were intelligent enough to understand dolphin communication, you could have a conversation with them. But sadly, we’re too stupid.
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