New YouGov Times poll

CON 32(+2) LAB 22(+1) LD 20 + BREX 12(-2) FW Aug 20/21

If we Brexit before a GE my gut feeling is that the public will have had enough of that for now. I think the when it came the GE would be normal service resumed. That is why Boris is picking off key Tory targets like crime so he can fight Corbyn on traditional grounds and point to what he has already done.

GE before Brexit will be a referendum of sorts and as you said I would expect plenty of tactical voting by the public and the parties.

One more point

The leave campaign was one of several campaigns to exit the EU. It wasn't the 'pope' it didn't speak for everyone on the leave side.

We will have a new trading relationship with the EU regardless of what happens.

The 350m figure isn't accurate...it varies depending upon how you measure it....and I certainly don't agree with giving all the EU money to the NHS. It was a dodgy slogan just as the remain campaigns had 'project fear'...and continue to have.

Getting rid of immigration?

Baby steps....baby steps.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Good on him - revenge.

The voters (bless them) voted in Mrs May and her tory administration.

There has been a tory right-wing coup, not subject to elections and not what the voters voted for, their policies and ideology are different.

It is so easy in modern UK to gain power through the back door, through connections and what private school you went too.

Second rate commies.
Ha ha that's a compliment.
Stalin wouldn't stoop so low for a vote.
Although if they did get in the Nobel prize goes to...... Maduro.

Interesting read. I also noted a little throw away comment by the BBC that we have now completed trade deals with 39 countries. I believe these are with ones who already deals had with the EU so a cut and paste job but some on this board said this would be next to impossible take years etc.

It would seem that Mrs May and her team were never serious about planning for life away from the EU with or without a trade deal. I think the current team are showing that whilst there will always be bumps in the road it is not as bad as some fear.

I am glad to hear that they are using common-sense sense on border controls. I could never understand the view that we would not be able to import food and medicine to me that would only be true if UK officials and rules snarled up the process. After all if you are a Swiss drug company why would you not want to continue to sale your drugs in the UK? Any delays would have to be down to our side so thankfully someone has recognised this so I don't think it will be a big deal.

One more point

***Awaits Wisbech's rebuttal***

Pro USA & Israel

Good point, he pointed out that the commission has been to Ireland 3 times and talked to the public and businesses. He also worked on the north south border and has good contacts with his opposite numbers in Eire so has plenty of experience.

But yes you are correct any deal has to be agreed by both sides.

His main issue which goes to your comment is that currently the EU is stopping all customs officials from discussing a solution. So he was the first to admit that there maybe issues they don't know about but until the EU or more accurately the people who actually do the job sit down with them to discuss the technicalities they won't know.

As I previously said he was very confident that if the politicians get out of the way the issues can be resolved by those who actually do the job on both sides.

It was on LBC Nigel Farage show if you want to listen to him he wasn't promising unicorns and rainbows just talking common sense.

One more point

Do you know who else was on the panel?... Thought not, maybe some "Irish people".

Yeah Steely, just like you cared what Catatonian people thought.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)