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 Mapletree  Croydon 28 Aug 19 6.36pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
They really aren't taking this Peoples-Prorogue well, are they? Utterly deranged. I'd ordinarily feel sorry for an evident loon, but I've lost patience: [Tweet Link]Haha That will be the Samuel Jack who reported David Lammy to the Police and quoted the crime number on Twitter. The man's a 'bit bizarre'. I assume he is also a stalker by the reaction to him. Quite likely based on his tweets. Edited by Mapletree (28 Aug 2019 6.37pm)
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| Deleted11 28 Aug 19 6.42pm | |
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Fair enough. Hopefully it all works out for everyone. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
With respect Jway89....Dave's right, those arguments were had three years ago. I can't say I agree with your take but what's the point with rehashing those particular arguments. We are onto the nitty gritty at the moment.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Aug 19 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Haha That will be the Samuel Jack who reported David Lammy to the Police and quoted the crime number on Twitter. The man's a 'bit bizarre'. I assume he is also a stalker by the reaction to him. Quite likely based on his tweets. Edited by Mapletree (28 Aug 2019 6.37pm) Reported to police?....David Lammy is guilty of reducing contributions to charity with his utter drivel. Who is to say how many children went without for that. The face of Labour. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Aug 2019 6.54pm)
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| chris123 hove actually 28 Aug 19 6.50pm |
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Originally posted by Jway89
So, what exactly was it for you? BTW, I'm not accusing you or any Brexiteer of racism. I see the benefits of of both in and out, but, imo, taking back control to me doesn't seem like a valid argument. What will we be in control of? Our Economy will tank in the next year or so, but not because we left the EU, it will tank because the actual politicians we are entrusting to deliver Brexit are the actual people that have already destroyed this economy. The context of taking back control for some is increasing EU Federalism.
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jeeagles  28 Aug 19 6.58pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Haha That will be the Samuel Jack who reported David Lammy to the Police and quoted the crime number on Twitter. The man's a 'bit bizarre'. I assume he is also a stalker by the reaction to him. Quite likely based on his tweets. Edited by Mapletree (28 Aug 2019 6.37pm) Great stuff. The remainers that go round protesting, waving EU flags and saying that this is the death of democracy need to realise that to an impartial observer the come across as just as deluded and clueless about the workings of the EU as the UKIPPERs used too. I'm still trying to figure out the full implications of today's announcement.... they've jumped straight to claiming it's the death of democracy. I hardly see how limiting the number of people that can make a mess out of things for a few days will have a big impact. Especially when most MPs are selected by a handful of granys at their local political club
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Aug 19 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Oh like most things it'll be bad for some and good for some. Most won't be affected that much as most businesses don't trade with the EU....we will no doubt have temporary adjustments in the markets....plenty will be more pleased or offended by the general political direction but how much are things really going to change?.....Still the really invested will will go absolutely ape.....which is something i suppose. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Aug 2019 6.53pm) Perhaps most businesses don't as many are tiny, but larger employers often will. Your logic is dubious.
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Aug 19 7.03pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Reported to police?....David Lammy is guilty of reducing contributions to charity with his utter drivel. Who is to say how many children went without for that. The face of Labour. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Aug 2019 6.54pm) No, that is not what was reported to Police
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| davenotamonkey 28 Aug 19 7.05pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
It's because you want Farage as the new State Governor of England. And coincidentally that is also what he has agreed with Trump, so that's all good. Ah yes, I was hoping for that. That's why I voted for Brexit. Because I knew that Trump, who wasn't President at the time, would make it possible. Christ on a bike, you people.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Aug 19 7.08pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Perhaps most businesses don't as many are tiny, but larger employers often will. Your logic is dubious. 6 percent of British businesses export to the EU....according to leave....the remain campaign actually had a lower figure. My logic is factual. As for multinationals, and larger companies....Brexit will have even lesser affect for them as they have the most ability to adjust.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Aug 19 7.10pm |
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Seriously? You linked me to 'the Poke'.
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| jeeagles 28 Aug 19 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
6 percent of British businesses export to the EU....according to leave....the remain campaign actually had a lower figure. My logic is factual. As for multinationals, and larger companies....Brexit will have even lesser affect for them as they have the most ability to adjust. True, but as of 2018 there were 5.7m british businesses. 96% had less than 9 employees, and 99.9% had less than 250. Making the 6% stat pretty meaningless.
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Aug 19 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
6 percent of British businesses export to the EU....according to leave....the remain campaign actually had a lower figure. My logic is factual. As for multinationals, and larger companies....Brexit will have even lesser affect for them as they have the most ability to adjust. Are you being wilful or simply thick tonight? In 2018 there were 5.4 million microbusinesses in the UK, accounting for 96% of all businesses. Although the vast majority of businesses in the UK employ fewer than 10 people, this sort of business only accounts for 33% of employment and 21% of turnover. There are 8,000 large businesses, with more than 250 employees, accounting for 0.1% of businesses but 40% of employment and 48% of turnover. Many people will be affected as their employers are hit by Brexit based issues.
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Aug 19 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Ian Dale has just explained that Parliament doesn't sit mid Sept - mid Oct and hasn't for many years. It all gets technical as some of it is called recess and some prorogation, the bottom line is that Parliament doesn't sit. All Johnson has done is extend this period by about 3-4 days from the normal time. He also pointed out that this session of Parliament is the longest for 400 years and we are overdue a Queen's speech. Much ado about nothing. Yeh. Want to buy a bridge?
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| davidpercival Croydon 28 Aug 19 7.46pm |
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You seem to have delusions of grandeur. Who appointed you the spokesperson for "the majority". Anyone applauding Johnson's actions in closing down parliamentary debate need to answer the question if they would feel the same if Corbyn was PM and he wanted to force through a policy as controversial as this one. When the referendum was held nobody was voting on leaving the EU without an agreement. Quite the opposite in fact. We were told a deal would be easy to achieve and we could have the Norway option if we wanted. The only question was in principle whether we wanted to stay or go and Johnson and Farage are re-writing history about what they said at the time. Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
A Prime Minister who is a actually listening to and carrying out the wishes of his people by referendum and then by GE manifesto instead of doing a remainer May and listening to the soon to be unelected riff raff who call themselves MPs going completely against their own constituents Well done Boris WE ARE with you Leave the EU means leave the EU The GBP The majority
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| steeleye20 Croydon 28 Aug 19 7.49pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Ian Dale has just explained that Parliament doesn't sit mid Sept - mid Oct and hasn't for many years. It all gets technical as some of it is called recess and some prorogation, the bottom line is that Parliament doesn't sit. All Johnson has done is extend this period by about 3-4 days from the normal time. He also pointed out that this session of Parliament is the longest for 400 years and we are overdue a Queen's speech. Much ado about nothing. B honestly, if it is much ado about nothing then there would need to do it, would there? 'If it's neither here nor there, then where is it?' (Tommy Cooper).
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| davidpercival Croydon 28 Aug 19 7.53pm |
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The point is that the MPs themselves normally decide on the break and how long it is. In this instance the decision has been taken out of their hands and been decided by the Crown. The last tine a King did that he ended up on the block. I can understand some people thinking Johnson's actions are acceptable but don't try to pretend it is anything other than the Originally posted by Badger11
Ian Dale has just explained that Parliament doesn't sit mid Sept - mid Oct and hasn't for many years. It all gets technical as some of it is called recess and some prorogation, the bottom line is that Parliament doesn't sit. All Johnson has done is extend this period by about 3-4 days from the normal time. He also pointed out that this session of Parliament is the longest for 400 years and we are overdue a Queen's speech. Much ado about nothing.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Aug 19 7.54pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Are you being wilful or simply thick tonight? In 2018 there were 5.4 million microbusinesses in the UK, accounting for 96% of all businesses. Although the vast majority of businesses in the UK employ fewer than 10 people, this sort of business only accounts for 33% of employment and 21% of turnover. There are 8,000 large businesses, with more than 250 employees, accounting for 0.1% of businesses but 40% of employment and 48% of turnover. Many people will be affected as their employers are hit by Brexit based issues. I've already answered this thicko.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Aug 19 8.02pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
B****cks from a worried man Worried? For myself and my own future, not at all. For my wife's, my children, grandchildren, great grandchild, my country and it's proud democracy yes I am. As everyone ought to be. However, not actually really worried as I believe that our system, which has long stood the test of time, will overcome this and triumph in the end. The more accurate word is disgusted at the opportunist tactics being employed in the interests of a very small elite hiding themselves under a populist cloak. This stinks of Trump.
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