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Originally posted by steeleye20
JC could win an election on a remain ticket. It would also rule out more referendums. The polls pretty constant with remain at 56%. I would think the fear of a corbyn and his marxist crew in charge trumps the brexit or not debate.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
JC could win an election on a remain ticket. It would also rule out more referendums. The polls pretty constant with remain at 56%. But hasn't JC always wittered on about respecting the result of the referendum, a referendum which 'Leave' won ? Apropos the polls, they had Remain winning the referendum.
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Originally posted by Willo
But hasn't JC always wittered on about respecting the result of the referendum, a referendum which 'Leave' won ? Apropos the polls, they had Remain winning the referendum. To qualify that, I think if only a no-deal is available, then he will go remain. But I may be a MOTD pundit, in which case ignore.
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Originally posted by Charlie Croker
Then we need an investigation into where the other 2% has appeared from I put it down to multi-tasking. Anyway, clearly 3 options wouldn't work. The only only possible option is no deal versus whatever deal Boris comes up with but it's not a good idea as apart from anything else that requires another extension. Got to leave now.
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Originally posted by furrybloke
2 string question, not saying I have every answer. Leave/Remain Let the people make the choice now you have seen the deal & heard the arguments. A second referendum has to be the least likely scenario going forward. It isn't going to happen. Edited by dollardays (02 Sep 2019 3.36pm)
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Originally posted by furrybloke
2 string question, not saying I have every answer. Leave/Remain Let the people make the choice now you have seen the deal & heard the arguments. Okay but the Electoral Commission has previously ruled out this type of multiple choice question as too confusing. As they approve the "question" my understanding is that it will have to binary. Now bearing in mind that people complained about the binary question asked in 2016 I think you can multiple those complaints for this type of question. What happens if someone votes Remain and No Deal. I get your frustration it's messy which is why we are where we are today. Edited by Badger11 (02 Sep 2019 3.44pm)
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Originally posted by Willo
But hasn't JC always wittered on about respecting the result of the referendum, a referendum which 'Leave' won ? Apropos the polls, they had Remain winning the referendum. If Corbyn said that the Sun will rise in the morning I wouldn't believe him. Mans a loser & a loony.
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Originally posted by Jimenez
If Corbyn said that the Sun will rise in the morning I wouldn't believe him. Mans a loser & a loony. You're not alone in that view, Jimenez.
Source: @YouGov
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I disagree. It is abundantly clear that the balance of opinion in Parliament is against a no deal Brexit. I don't think Corbyn will decide this, and certainly hope not. I think Blair is right and agreeing to an election would be falling into a trap set by Johnson's strategists. I hope wiser heads in the shadow cabinet and behind the scenes will restrain Corbyn's instincts and personal ambitions. Our sovereignty has never been, and remains, under any kind of threat by being a member of the EU. That's just yet another anti-EU myth. Governments have set the timetable only by conventions granted to them by Parliament. If they abuse that gift then it will be removed from them. If an executive seeks to establish sovereignty over Parliament then it will be treated like the naughty child it seeks to mimic and probably given a "time out". Blair is a criminal and should be seen as such and tried for 'war crimes" As such his thoughts are irrelevant..
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Originally posted by the silurian
Blair is a criminal and should be seen as such and tried for 'war crimes" As such his thoughts are irrelevant..
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
If parliament tries to repeal Article 50 the resulting demonstrations will make the current unrest in Hong Kong look like a barn dance Do you believe in Parliamentary Democracy? If so then you must also accept Parliament taking decisions you don't agree with, as we all must. Especially Boris Johnson.
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Originally posted by Matov
What justification is there for a Remain option? Remain lost. It's done. Over. You don't get a second bite at the cherry. Varients of Leave then perhaps there is an argument to be made but Remain is simply not an option.
If Parliament decides that it wishes to consult the people again it can do so on whatever terms it decides.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If Parliament decides that it wishes to consult the people again it can do so on whatever terms it decides. And they can ommit over 75s and allow over 16s as should have been the first rule.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Do you believe in Parliamentary Democracy? If so then you must also accept Parliament taking decisions you don't agree with, as we all must. Especially Boris Johnson. Kind of ironic as you dont agree with the decision to hold a referendum or its result
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Originally posted by the silurian
Blair is a criminal and should be seen as such and tried for 'war crimes" As such his thoughts are irrelevant.. My preference would be to cancel the whole debacle and hold a 5 year moratorium during which we negotiate a revised relationship with the EU which probably means we would stop being full members but have some kind of associate membership. That though seems unlikely to happen for a variety of reasons so my solution would be to request an extension for 6 months, hold a GE later this year and let the new Parliament decide what to do next. If the Tories, Brexit Party and DUP gain a majority then we leave with no deal. If the opposition Parties who desire a second referendum gain a majority then we hold a referendum, much as I dislike them. If there is a hung Parliament then compromises will need to be sought.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
My preference would be to cancel the whole debacle and hold a 5 year moratorium during which we negotiate a revised relationship with the EU which probably means we would stop being full members but have some kind of associate membership. That though seems unlikely to happen for a variety of reasons so my solution would be to request an extension for 6 months, hold a GE later this year and let the new Parliament decide what to do next. If the Tories, Brexit Party and DUP gain a majority then we leave with no deal. If the opposition Parties who desire a second referendum gain a majority then we hold a referendum, much as I dislike them. If there is a hung Parliament then compromises will need to be sought. Didnt we try for years to get a revised relationship and ended up banging our heads against the wall as the EU dont negotiate, they tell others what will happen?
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Originally posted by the silurian
Kind of ironic as you dont agree with the decision to hold a referendum or its result
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Originally posted by the silurian
Didnt we try for years to get a revised relationship and ended up banging our heads against the wall as the EU dont negotiate, they tell others what will happen?
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