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Midlands Eagle 02 Sep 19 4.57pm
Originally posted by cryrst And they can ommit over 75s and allow over 16s as should have been the first rule. Parliament has it's good points and can make the rules. I doubt whether Wissy will like that as it will rule him out

Midlands Eagle

02 Sep 19 4.57pm

Originally posted by cryrst

And they can ommit over 75s and allow over 16s as should have been the first rule.
Parliament has it's good points and can make the rules.

I doubt whether Wissy will like that as it will rule him out

mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 02 Sep 19 5.03pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Okay but the Electoral Commission has previously ruled out this type of multiple choice question as too confusing. As they approve the "question" my understanding is that it will have to binary. Now bearing in mind that people complained about the binary question asked in 2016 I think you can multiple those complaints for this type of question. What happens if someone votes Remain and No Deal. I get your frustration it's messy which is why we are where we are today. Edited by Badger11 (02 Sep 2019 3.44pm) There are only 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those that don't. Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

mezzer

Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 02 Sep 19 5.03pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Okay but the Electoral Commission has previously ruled out this type of multiple choice question as too confusing. As they approve the "question" my understanding is that it will have to binary.

Now bearing in mind that people complained about the binary question asked in 2016 I think you can multiple those complaints for this type of question.

What happens if someone votes Remain and No Deal.

I get your frustration it's messy which is why we are where we are today.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Sep 2019 3.44pm)

There are only 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those that don't.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

Stirlingsays 02 Sep 19 5.07pm
Originally posted by mezzer There are only 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those that don't. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

02 Sep 19 5.07pm

Originally posted by mezzer

There are only 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those that don't.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Sep 19 5.51pm
Originally posted by furrybloke Why not have it on the ballot if you don't like the deal or no deal you can change your mind 3 choices make the argument for or against each. Why is remain not an option? They lost but if the deal on offer or no deal is not what you want regardless of how you voted why not give people the option. FPTP obviously cannot guarantee that, even if it were true. I think he’d go to leave with giving everything away. Stay in the customs union, open door policy, roll on the floor and have his tummy tickled after promising to leave with a sensitive voice and ear to a political union that wants to stuff us and tear our sphincters open. He’d probably agree to that in Brussels as well seeing as he’s weak and shows no loyalty to his nation, pretty much like all the hysteria going on by the whingeing minority Get on with it Boris and backhand these clowns for good so we can get on with what we want. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 02 Sep 19 5.51pm

Originally posted by furrybloke

Why not have it on the ballot if you don't like the deal or no deal you can change your mind 3 choices make the argument for or against each.

Why is remain not an option? They lost but if the deal on offer or no deal is not what you want regardless of how you voted why not give people the option.

FPTP obviously cannot guarantee that, even if it were true. I think he’d go to leave with giving everything away. Stay in the customs union, open door policy, roll on the floor and have his tummy tickled after promising to leave with a sensitive voice and ear to a political union that wants to stuff us and tear our sphincters open. He’d probably agree to that in Brussels as well seeing as he’s weak and shows no loyalty to his nation, pretty much like all the hysteria going on by the whingeing minority

Get on with it Boris and backhand these clowns for good so we can get on with what we want.

COYP

Invalid user 2019 02 Sep 19 5.52pm
Another one? [Link] If it's coming before long it would appear to be the best time to do so for the Tories. There's also a decent chance of it being set, or moved, to the day after Brexit to snuff out the Brexit Party vote. Interesting times. Edited by dollardays (02 Sep 2019 6.00pm)

Invalid user 2019

02 Sep 19 5.52pm

Another one? [Link]

If it's coming before long it would appear to be the best time to do so for the Tories. There's also a decent chance of it being set, or moved, to the day after Brexit to snuff out the Brexit Party vote. Interesting times.

Edited by dollardays (02 Sep 2019 6.00pm)

Stirlingsays 02 Sep 19 6.02pm
What is Johnson's majority now? One? It's a no brainer that he has to close down parliament and 'cock a deaf un'....and a no brainer that he has to go to the polls sooner rather than later. All the normie little old ladies are going to vote Johnson or Farage and if he makes a deal with Farage then it's game set and match in the bag with a reasonable majority. Unless Labour do a deal with the Lib Dems.....now that would be interesting. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 6.05pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

02 Sep 19 6.02pm

What is Johnson's majority now? One?

It's a no brainer that he has to close down parliament and 'cock a deaf un'....and a no brainer that he has to go to the polls sooner rather than later.

All the normie little old ladies are going to vote Johnson or Farage and if he makes a deal with Farage then it's game set and match in the bag with a reasonable majority.

Unless Labour do a deal with the Lib Dems.....now that would be interesting.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 6.05pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 02 Sep 19 6.08pm
Johnson summons emergency cabinet meeting.....I see an election being called within weeks. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 6.14pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

02 Sep 19 6.08pm

Johnson summons emergency cabinet meeting.....I see an election being called within weeks.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 6.14pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Badger11 Beckenham 02 Sep 19 6.15pm
Johnson does not call for a GE however within his speech it hints that if he loses tomorrow he will call for a GE. "There is no circumstance in which I will ask for an extension" I think he is preparing the ground to blame the opposition if we go to a GE. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 02 Sep 19 6.15pm

Johnson does not call for a GE however within his speech it hints that if he loses tomorrow he will call for a GE.

"There is no circumstance in which I will ask for an extension"

I think he is preparing the ground to blame the opposition if we go to a GE.

One more point

Stirlingsays 02 Sep 19 6.21pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Johnson does not call for a GE however within his speech it hints that if he loses tomorrow he will call for a GE. "There is no circumstance in which I will ask for an extension" I think he is preparing the ground to blame the opposition if we go to a GE. Get your popcorn out. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

02 Sep 19 6.21pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Johnson does not call for a GE however within his speech it hints that if he loses tomorrow he will call for a GE.

"There is no circumstance in which I will ask for an extension"

I think he is preparing the ground to blame the opposition if we go to a GE.

Get your popcorn out.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

steeleye20 Croydon 02 Sep 19 6.36pm
Hot air from a ridiculous clown. What is it about Tory PMs that they have to whine on like this for support from outside Number 10. We are not MPs we could not do anything anyway.

steeleye20

Croydon 02 Sep 19 6.36pm

Hot air from a ridiculous clown.

What is it about Tory PMs that they have to whine on like this for support from outside Number 10.

We are not MPs we could not do anything anyway.

the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 19 6.40pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle There is nothing ironic involved in believing in the supremacy of Parliament as the place where final decisions are made. Referendums have no place in our system. The 2016 one only gained any legitimacy through Parliament, which they can just as easily remove. But the government promised a referendum, gave a referendum and PROMISED to honour the result of the referendum, yet you and many others are doing their utmost to overturn the result...will you also query the result of a general election IF you dont gert the result you want? Corbyn fan are you?

the silurian

The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 19 6.40pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There is nothing ironic involved in believing in the supremacy of Parliament as the place where final decisions are made. Referendums have no place in our system. The 2016 one only gained any legitimacy through Parliament, which they can just as easily remove.

But the government promised a referendum, gave a referendum and PROMISED to honour the result of the referendum, yet you and many others are doing their utmost to overturn the result...will you also query the result of a general election IF you dont gert the result you want? Corbyn fan are you?

the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 19 6.42pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I doubt whether Wissy will like that as it will rule him out GOOD!

the silurian

The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 19 6.42pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I doubt whether Wissy will like that as it will rule him out

GOOD!

cryrst The garden of England 02 Sep 19 6.51pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I doubt whether Wissy will like that as it will rule him out He didnt vote last time anyway. Hes been asked and avoided answering.

cryrst

The garden of England 02 Sep 19 6.51pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I doubt whether Wissy will like that as it will rule him out

He didnt vote last time anyway.
Hes been asked and avoided answering.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Sep 19 7.23pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle To try to counter the effect of Farage and the promise made by Cameron of course I did. That though doesn't mean I approved of it being held. I thoroughly disapproved and was very vocal about that at the time. However it was held and it would have been foolish in the extreme to allow those who believed the garbage thrown out by the Leave campaigns to just have a walk over. He did answer. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 02 Sep 19 7.23pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

To try to counter the effect of Farage and the promise made by Cameron of course I did.

That though doesn't mean I approved of it being held.

I thoroughly disapproved and was very vocal about that at the time.

However it was held and it would have been foolish in the extreme to allow those who believed the garbage thrown out by the Leave campaigns to just have a walk over.

He did answer.

COYP

chris123 hove actually 02 Sep 19 7.38pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What's your point? That it hasn't yet found the way doesn't mean it cannot and it certainly doesn't mean it will allow itself to be sidelined. It will do what is necessary. You said that it is the will of the current Parliament that they do not want us to leave the EU without first agreeing a deal. I'm making the point is that they've had three goes and failed each time. Maybe withdrawing the whip will focus minds, but I think Parliament has been pretty useless.

chris123

hove actually 02 Sep 19 7.38pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What's your point?

That it hasn't yet found the way doesn't mean it cannot and it certainly doesn't mean it will allow itself to be sidelined. It will do what is necessary.

You said that it is the will of the current Parliament that they do not want us to leave the EU without first agreeing a deal. I'm making the point is that they've had three goes and failed each time. Maybe withdrawing the whip will focus minds, but I think Parliament has been pretty useless.

Stirlingsays 02 Sep 19 7.48pm
How many times did we get on this thread from remainers that Brexit couldn't happen and was never going to happen? Remember all that criticism about how the 'leavers' responsible for the Brexit vote have all run away? Don't hear that now do you. Funny how a government led by actual Brexiters changes things eh......the tune is definitely different now. Dominic Cummings was right.....the Remainers missed the boat....the 'dirty tricks, remain at all costs' brigade were given a taste of their own medicine by the 'leave at all costs' brigade. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 7.49pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

02 Sep 19 7.48pm

How many times did we get on this thread from remainers that Brexit couldn't happen and was never going to happen?

Remember all that criticism about how the 'leavers' responsible for the Brexit vote have all run away? Don't hear that now do you.

Funny how a government led by actual Brexiters changes things eh......the tune is definitely different now.

Dominic Cummings was right.....the Remainers missed the boat....the 'dirty tricks, remain at all costs' brigade were given a taste of their own medicine by the 'leave at all costs' brigade.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 7.49pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 02 Sep 19 7.53pm
Johnson can't lose whatever happens tomorrow. If he loses the vote he'll ignore it....and he gets the chance to reshape his party and weed out the pro EU lobby before he calls an election in a few weeks. If he wins it's onwards anyway. I rather suspect he'd prefer to lose the vote. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 7.53pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

02 Sep 19 7.53pm

Johnson can't lose whatever happens tomorrow.

If he loses the vote he'll ignore it....and he gets the chance to reshape his party and weed out the pro EU lobby before he calls an election in a few weeks.

If he wins it's onwards anyway.

I rather suspect he'd prefer to lose the vote.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 7.53pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

johnno42000 02 Sep 19 7.55pm
If it had been David Cameron instead of BJ I'd say he was being pig headed. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

johnno42000

02 Sep 19 7.55pm

If it had been David Cameron instead of BJ I'd say he was being pig headed.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Sep 19 8.27pm
Originally posted by johnno42000 If it had been David Cameron instead of BJ I'd say he was being pig headed. Nah, he’s got his trotters up. (Danny Dyer) Funny actually. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 02 Sep 19 8.27pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

If it had been David Cameron instead of BJ I'd say he was being pig headed.

Nah, he’s got his trotters up. (Danny Dyer) Funny actually.

COYP

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Sep 19 10.32pm
Originally posted by the silurian But the government promised a referendum, gave a referendum and PROMISED to honour the result of the referendum, yet you and many others are doing their utmost to overturn the result...will you also query the result of a general election IF you dont gert the result you want? Corbyn fan are you? No one was offered an exit without first agreeing a new arrangement. Parliament is not seeking to do anything other than insist that they have the final say over the terms of our exit. There is a fundamental principle of our democracy at stake here. Parliament and not the executive are sovereign. I have as much time for Corbyn as I do for Johnson. Which is none at all. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 02 Sep 19 10.32pm

Originally posted by the silurian

No one was offered an exit without first agreeing a new arrangement. Parliament is not seeking to do anything other than insist that they have the final say over the terms of our exit.

There is a fundamental principle of our democracy at stake here. Parliament and not the executive are sovereign.

I have as much time for Corbyn as I do for Johnson. Which is none at all.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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