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 Midlands Eagle  03 Sep 19 2.40pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I sense a little of the bravado and self confidence in the "leave at all costs" lobby both here and in the wider world ebbing away! Don't confuse boredom at arguing with the likes of yourself to any change of mind as in my own case I've got better things to do with my life than arguing with you
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| Stirlingsays 03 Sep 19 2.47pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
'The negotiations are going well' How much longer can anyone believe this utter s****e. Not Cummins actually who admits they are a sham. With no negotiating team, and having withdrawn its diplomats, does it exist at-all. Of course it was a sham. We are leaving.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| W12 03 Sep 19 2.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I also detect a return to the "slagging off" tactics that typifies so many of their arguments, which is another sign that their hopes are waning. You mean: Fascists That kind of thing? The "slagging off" in the other directions seems both a lot more measured and accurate: Collaborator
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| Mapletree Croydon 03 Sep 19 3.05pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
AH ! I now see the plan.
Well, yes. Of course. So that those who have to deal with this mess actually get a say in it. Why should those who no longer work enforce something that will destroy opportunity on those who are about to start their working lives?
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| Stirlingsays 03 Sep 19 3.16pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Well, yes. Of course. So that those who have to deal with this mess actually get a say in it. Why should those who no longer work enforce something that will destroy opportunity on those who are about to start their working lives? Apart from the ghoulish and unethical nature of this I'll state once again, the logic of this doesn't work. More people would have entered into the older age brackets than would have died....People's politics are affected by age and the way the EU has behaved wouldn't have helped the remain side. I predict no real significant change on any second vote.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Maine Eagle USA 03 Sep 19 3.19pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Did we have to sit a test before we voted? How on earth do you think you know what we all knew or did not? Your stance is perhaps the most arrogant I have ever come across. Or are you psychic? A crystal ball? Tarot cards? Reading the tea leaves? Democracy does not involve, in any way, shape or form, those who lose deciding on behalf of those whose votes were in the majority that they did not know what they were voting for and that because of that, you get a chance to vote again for your prefered option. And us Leavers are meant to be the deluded ones? LOL. As a genuine question, why would a second referendum with Remain as an option be considered the definitive one? Why should I, who voted in utter good faith on June 23rd 2016, think that this time it really really really does count? Will you promise not to have your fingers crossed this time? Will you really really really accept the result this time even if you don't like the outcome? Because I have eyes, ears and a brain? I know very well what a huge percentage of brexit voters were voting for. They were voting to have less bloody foreigners on our streets taking our women and jobs. You call for honesty, then be honest yourself. Sovereignty was secondary to xenophobia in the 2016 vote. Tell me all you want that this isnt correct, and I will never believe you. You are just listing all the stock responses from a brexiteer about a people's vote. Yes the second vote would be 100% respected, implemented, and delivered because it would be DELIVERABLE. The 2016 vote was not deliverable, if you have seen anything in the last 3 years, you have seen that. The whole idea of a second vote is to tie the vote responses to deliverable pathways of implementation. "Leave the EU" is not such a pathway, as there are massive differences between the different ways in which you can leave the EU.
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| Maine Eagle USA 03 Sep 19 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
AH ! I now see the plan.
Works for me. Foolish old people shouldnt be allowed to f*** over 21 year olds with their whole lives ahead of them.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Stirlingsays 03 Sep 19 3.27pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Works for me.
So is this you saying that you aren't going to draw your pension then?
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Invalid user 2019 03 Sep 19 3.37pm |
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
Among the hundreds of things I do not understand about this whole farce, is that What would a general election acheive? is it's BJ's Attempt to get a majority in Parliament? coz If so, then as half his own party don;t agree with the whole no deal thing, then, ,that aint gonna help? If a Election happens, I'm left with the unenviable choice of 1) voting Tory, which I'm not sure i want to do, 2) voting Labour, which I definately don't want as that little t*rd corbyn will be in charge, or 3) Vote for 'Remain' to the Lib Dems - which will most likely mean diddly Squit in the whole grand scheme of things, and will probaly result in that little t*rd Corbyn being in charge. He could possibly deselect those voting to stop No deal, which would be his way of quietening those voices. Boris is likely banking on the fact that he has a clearer message than May, and at present at least consequently is more popular than she is. Corbyn is on 17% popularity, which is astonishingly low. Parliament is in grid lock and so another election may well be the roll of a dice that gets things moving in one direction or another. In my view the Conservatives definitely stand a decent chance of a majority with a GE at this time. The Brexit Party vote will fall away, and the remain vote will be split between Labour and Lib Dem. A majority would give Boris more of a mandate and would be a further opportunity for the country to make a clear decision about the direction of the country one way or another. I'm of course also aware that if could result in ANOTHER hung parliament though. That result isn't beyond the realms of possibility either because so much is in flux and this is charted territory.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Sep 19 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Don't confuse boredom at arguing with the likes of yourself to any change of mind as in my own case I've got better things to do with my life than arguing with you No confusion. I am simply observing and commenting. No-one is obliged to answer. Off topic but those who feel that the Mueller report has cleared Trump just need to be patient. The House knows that impeachment would fail in the Senate so are concentrating on 2020 knowing that waht Mueller revealed will have a significant impact. If,as I expect, Trump is defeated and he becomes a private citizen again, then we can expect the real action to begin because his DoJ shield will be removed. At least Johnson doesn't have this kind of suspicion hanging over him.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
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| steeleye20 Croydon 03 Sep 19 3.47pm |
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Tory majority gone I hear. Poor man so distressed he joined the lib-dems. Ar his first photo-session now in the new 'bollox' T-shirt.
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Sep 19 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
To me, you miss the main point. The people that voted in the second referendum are not the same people that would vote in a third. There are 2 million young people to add in - largely likely to vote Remain - and 1.5m to take out - largely likely to have voted Leave. A total of 82% of 18 to 24-year-olds with a voting preference say they would vote Remain in a third referendum. In contrast, two-thirds of those aged 65 and over would back Leave, while only one-third would favour Remain. As a reminder, most people over 65 are now retired. We are being sleep walked into a decision that is no longer valid. If ever it was the will of the people (many people used it as a protest vote for a variety of reasons) it almost certainly isn't now. Edited by Mapletree (03 Sep 2019 1.22pm) Mystic Maple do you have this weeks lottery numbers by any chance
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| Invalid user 2019 03 Sep 19 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
f*** me...i'm watching the statement in the Commons and the behaviour of MP's is simply EMBARRASSING SACK THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM! Well they've had three years of achieving absolutely nothing, so we could've certainly offered them their P45 over that period at least
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 03 Sep 19 4.46pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Works for me. Foolish old people shouldnt be allowed to f*** over 21 year olds with their whole lives ahead of them. Glad you cant vote then, many of the OLD people are the reason the young even have the vote!! Dont suppose President Adolf would have allowed any voting!
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 03 Sep 19 4.52pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
That has already been happening over the last three years, the polls showing 56% remain now. Currently the majority of people do not want to leave the EU. which polls? Links??
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